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2022-04-08 21:03:51 <liskin> Saw a tweet of someone getting train tickets for ZuriHac. Shall I start worrying about that as well? :-)
2022-04-08 21:20:53 <tdammers> depends where you're traveling from, and how hard you depend on those train tickets to be cheap
2022-04-08 21:22:37 <tdammers> fwiw, I booked mine a couple weeks ago
2022-04-08 22:13:09 <liskin> We intend to use the budget from donations for the travel, so being cheap is more of a PR thing than anything personal.
2022-04-08 22:13:34 <liskin> And I have no idea where I'll be traveling from :-)
2022-04-08 22:14:01 geekosaur wonders if he should get in his claim now, then
2022-04-08 22:14:07 <liskin> But booking a place to stay might be a good idea anyway as the destination isn't going to change
2022-04-08 22:14:14 <geekosaur> not that I'm capable of going to zurihac or much of anything else :(
2022-04-08 22:15:46 <liskin> So where are people staying for ZuriHac? Random airbnbs/bookings nearby or some specific tips?
2022-04-08 22:15:55 <liskin> geekosaur: :-(
2022-04-08 22:19:03 <liskin> geekosaur: Speaking of the budget though, I don't think our European travels are going to make much of a dent in it, so you're probably not necessarily in a rush.
2022-04-08 22:20:36 <liskin> And I'm getting a proper job soon meaning someone's going to be paying for my mental health shit and I'll have way less uncertainty in my life and I don't think I'll be spending less time on the xmonad project than now so I'm somewhat optimistic about the future :-)
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2022-04-09 06:08:34 <Solid> ah shit
2022-04-09 06:09:05 <Solid> I'm at a conference from july 11–15, so can't attend after all :/
2022-04-09 06:09:30 <Solid> okay, technically they could still not accept me
2022-04-09 06:27:28 <Solid> noex: friendly ping for your gentoo PR :)
2022-04-09 06:59:14 <liskin> But ZuriHac is June
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2022-04-09 07:00:55 <Solid> oh
2022-04-09 07:01:03 <Solid> well in that case forget I said anything :)
2022-04-09 07:08:12 <Solid> nine and a half hours by train
2022-04-09 07:08:14 <Solid> that'll be fun
2022-04-09 07:11:22 <abastro[m]> Nine hours?
2022-04-09 07:45:32 <liskin> Europe needs more high speed trains.
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2022-04-09 08:24:26 <Solid> liskin: a rough calculation tells me it'd be about 200 EUR for the train tickets for me
2022-04-09 08:24:36 <Solid> probably about as much again for the hotel
2022-04-09 08:24:48 <Solid> so indeed it may be better to book in the near future
2022-04-09 08:25:02 <Solid> I'll probably do it over Easter when I have a little free time
2022-04-09 08:39:15 <abastro[m]> Hmm
2022-04-09 08:39:50 <abastro[m]> Actually it makes sense if you are going from e.g. poland to spain
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2022-04-09 09:41:55 <DeepMajumder[m]> Does NamedScratchpad not properly float windows when we use `spacing` (from XMonad.Layout.Spacing) in our layoutHook? I think I have followed instructions from the docs properly, the named scratch is opening and closing alright, but it is not floating. It becomes tiled.
2022-04-09 09:43:08 <Solid> floats don't have anything to do with spacing, so that would surprise me
2022-04-09 09:54:17 <abastro[m]> I guess detection gone wrong
2022-04-09 10:00:30 <Solid> it wouldn't close if that were the case
2022-04-09 10:00:35 <Solid> but just repeatedly spawn
2022-04-09 10:02:12 <abastro[m]> Oh.
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2022-04-09 11:22:11 <geekosaur> that could happen if it doesn't set its properties until late. you don't happen to be trying to scratchpad a spotify window?
2022-04-09 11:24:05 <geekosaur> DeepMajumder[m], ^^
2022-04-09 11:35:13 <amenonsen> so i recently had to switch to two new machines, both laptop and desktop. i took the chance to try out wayland+sway for a few weeks.
2022-04-09 11:36:13 <amenonsen> it took some commitment to really try to get things working the way i wanted, but i actually did it. and now i'm back to my xmonad configuration after all.
2022-04-09 11:37:17 <amenonsen> (though admittedly for various reasons unrelated to sway—i could use sway and be happy, if i really had to)
2022-04-09 11:45:38 <amenonsen> there are a few nice things about using sway, though. e.g., you can enable numlock and configure key repeat delay/rate and xkb options all in one place, and it just works. even the default sway-bar has "system tray" functionality (or whatever it's called under wayland) (so i didn't have to also set up xmobar and stalonetray), and so on.
2022-04-09 11:46:07 <amenonsen> but it's a relief to be back using xmonad anyway.
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2022-04-09 11:58:05 <Solid> being able to configure things all in one place sounds like a net negative sadly; it means that every compositor has to implement these things and there can't be a tool that you can use regardless of what you're running :/
2022-04-09 12:00:58 <geekosaur> I wouldn't say we have a "default bar"; xmobar is just common (and maybe a bit unfortunately named, especially since it's maintained independently)
2022-04-09 12:02:29 <geekosaur> but for example taffybar's a thing and it also is designed for use with xmonad. and I think has built-in systray functionality
2022-04-09 12:04:11 <geekosaur> I'd almost be tempted to recommend it over the xmobar+trayer hack for people who want a systray
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2022-04-09 12:58:33 <liskin> It's a different kind of tray protocol though, so not a drop in replacement and needs a separate deamon our something
2022-04-09 12:58:49 <liskin> (haven't tried it myself though so no idea how well it works)
2022-04-09 13:08:24 <amenonsen> geekosaur: right, i know xmobar is not a default, i only meant that sway-bar is the default for sway.
2022-04-09 13:09:12 <amenonsen> i've tried taffybar long ago (circa xmonad 0.14) precisely because i liked the idea of using just one component, but i switched back to xmobar+stalonetray. (i don't remember exactly why, but there were some incomplete bits at the time.)
2022-04-09 13:11:48 <amenonsen> Solid: in theory i agree with that sentiment, but in practice i find i couldn't care less. i'm using numlockx and i've never managed to get it working properly (and my numlock is off again now).
2022-04-09 13:13:21 <amenonsen> a lot of things that are meant to be used with sway are extremely do-your-own-plumbing, so it was quite surprising that i didn't need to jump through major hoops for sane sway-bar and keyboard configuration.
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2022-04-09 13:34:48 <mc47> Solid, liskin: are you planning to come on friday to ZuriHac?

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