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2022-06-28 20:17:46 <geekosaur> boom
2022-06-28 20:26:25 <mc47> oups
2022-06-28 20:26:34 <mc47> forgot to squash my commits
2022-06-28 20:26:57 <mc47> Should I force push to master?
2022-06-28 20:27:04 <liskin> yes please
2022-06-28 20:28:06 <mc47> done
2022-06-28 20:30:12 <liskin> hm, wonder if the changelog entry for X.U.Grab is meaninfgul given it's not meant for end-users
2022-06-28 20:30:44 <mc47> I considered removing it as well, but decided that it wouldn't hurt to keep it there
2022-06-28 20:31:01 <liskin> okay
2022-06-28 20:32:21 <mc47> Today has been a long one, ending it with a merged PR makes it better :)
2022-06-28 20:32:28 <mc47> Oh our open PRs fit on one page
2022-06-28 20:32:59 <mc47> good night people!
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2022-06-28 23:17:31 <suconakh> Hi, is it possible to implement something like X.U.ActionCycle but for ManageHooks? I examined the source code of ActionCycle module and tried to just copy-paste everything and change `X` in type signature to `ManageHook`, but that didn't work: https://pastebin.com/e8RXM1EG
2022-06-28 23:19:28 <geekosaur> you would have to use liftX for XS.gets to work
2022-06-28 23:20:52 <geekosaur> there will probably be an XS.puts as well which also has to go via liftX
2022-06-28 23:25:20 <suconakh> Thanks, that worked!
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2022-06-29 06:19:58 <Solid> liskin: since I've decided to handle all the xmonad stuff via some freelancing gig an invoice is just simpler for me in terms of what to put on my tax declaration
2022-06-29 06:21:18 <Solid> geekosaur liskin mc47[m]: what's your opinion on https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/727 in terms of "should we deprecate these records in favour of def"?
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2022-06-29 06:30:30 <mc47[m]> I took a look at the code, and I agree with their argumentation in favor of deprecating urgencyConfig and keeping dzenUrgencyHook
2022-06-29 06:31:41 <mc47[m]> If we'd deprecate dzenUrgencyHook, we should consider deprecating the other hooks like borderUrgencHook and replacing them with a Default instance
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2022-06-29 07:46:50 <Solid> liskin: what do you think about the suggestion in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/36d5761b3e5aca9742fec85107e3d308a9af872c#commitcomment-77007727 about adding XMONAD_XMESSAGE and XMONAD_GHC?
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2022-06-29 09:01:32 <liskin> Solid: I'd still think you could simply ignore these expenses altogether and only use freelancing for actual "income" but maybe Germany is different
2022-06-29 09:01:44 <liskin> Anyway, do whatever suit you best :-)
2022-06-29 09:02:34 <liskin> Re (dzen)UrgencyHook I agree with deprecating only urgencyConfig
2022-06-29 09:04:28 <liskin> And yeah those env vars are probably acceptable. I wanted to reply to that but just couldn't find the capacity.
2022-06-29 09:05:48 <liskin> They have a point that using the patch for git snapshots is on us. It's explicitly mentioned in the flake, so we can probably make the Nix builds green without touching nixpkgs. I just don't know how :-)
2022-06-29 09:21:00 <alternateved> By pointing to different patch file in flake?
2022-06-29 09:23:38 <[Leary]> liskin: If we're out of sync with the patch, then instead of asking downstream to update, it's better we make our own and let them get it from us. That said, I think adopting those env vars is better, since it's not necessarily just a nix hack---anyone who doesn't want ghc in their path (or who wants to use a different one for xmonad) can point them at their isolated binary.
2022-06-29 09:24:07 <[Leary]> Though I'm not sure what the easy way to get the dependencies would be without nix.
2022-06-29 09:24:53 <liskin> alternateved: we'd drop the patch but I don't know how to change the env vars in the flake because I know nil about nix
2022-06-29 09:25:42 <liskin> [Leary]: I mainly asked downstream for a preferred way to do this, but yeah I should have asked you first, sorry
2022-06-29 09:26:19 <liskin> So I'd say the way forward is to upstream the patch with the suggested var names and then update the flake
2022-06-29 09:26:41 <liskin> (I'm busy with work now but can do the former later)
2022-06-29 09:32:22 <[Leary]> We don't need to do anything with env vars in the flake; just drop the patch and dependency on unstable. nixpkgs would just need to s/NIX_GHC/XMONAD_GHC in their xmonad wrapper, but we can leave it to them or drop a simple PR.
2022-06-29 09:33:13 <[Leary]> It would build, but not rebuild correctly until the latter change went in.
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