Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2022-06-29 18:07:49 | <mantis_one> | Just did `xrdb ~/.Xresources` and xmessage is showing the same error, the same for xfontsel |
| 2022-06-29 18:08:21 | <mantis_one> | But I've heard(don't know if it's true) that manjaro presents issues thar other disttros don't. I like Manjaro for the gaming. |
| 2022-06-29 18:11:44 | <geekosaur> | I haven't heard that. We've had significant problems with Arch because they insist on packaging Haskell stuff to require -dynamic and it causes lots of random breakage |
| 2022-06-29 18:12:31 | <geekosaur> | including people's configs stopping working after an Arch upgrade because they didn't follow the big warning on the arch wiki page for xmonad |
| 2022-06-29 18:18:05 | <mantis_one> | that's fixed with a --recompile right? |
| 2022-06-29 18:19:42 | <geekosaur> | yes, but you have to make sure you do it before you log out or reboot, or you won't be able to get back in |
| 2022-06-29 18:19:49 | <geekosaur> | (at least not via the gui) |
| 2022-06-29 18:20:17 | <geekosaur> | sadly a lot of arch users tend to forget that part and then we get bug reports |
| 2022-06-29 18:20:34 | <geekosaur> | that we can't do anything about since it all comes down to how arch packages xmonad |
| 2022-06-29 18:22:59 | <mantis_one> | I have KDE and Xmonad so I reboot before the recompile then go to kde and recompile there and then go back to xmonad. I could use the tty to, but it became an habit for me to do it this way. Maybe I'll change it :) |
| 2022-06-29 18:23:26 | <Solid> | there has been an issue to make a pacman hook for this for years I think |
| 2022-06-29 18:23:40 | <Solid> | but no one seems to care on the Arch side of things |
| 2022-06-29 18:23:47 | <mantis_one> | lol |
| 2022-06-29 18:23:56 | <geekosaur> | if you like kde then there's a way to use xmonad as kde's window manager. sadly it currently requires a patch to kde |
| 2022-06-29 18:24:10 | <geekosaur> | which means it's easiest to do under gentoo |
| 2022-06-29 18:24:53 | geekosaur | uses xmonad as window manager for mate |
| 2022-06-29 18:25:19 | <geekosaur> | but there are at least three users who patch kde to use xmonad there |
| 2022-06-29 18:25:51 | <mantis_one> | That's sounds so good. I didn't know you could use a TWM inside a DE :o |
| 2022-06-29 18:26:40 | <geekosaur> | you can't with gnome because everything lives inside gnome-shell, but other desktops are friendlier |
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| 2022-06-29 18:26:44 | <geekosaur> | and someone |
| 2022-06-29 18:27:14 | <geekosaur> | 's continued to support gnome-flashback so you get a gnome 3-ish gnome 2 environment if you try to switch window managers |
| 2022-06-29 18:30:05 | <mantis_one> | I'm not thinking of using gentoo right now (lot of things to do and it seems there is a lot to learn to use gentoo), but i'ts nice to know that |
| 2022-06-29 18:37:12 | <mantis_one> | thanks a lot guys (y) |
| 2022-06-29 18:52:51 | <alternateved> | EndeavourOS is a really nice distro |
| 2022-06-29 18:53:08 | <alternateved> | Still Arch with Arch-like problems |
| 2022-06-29 18:54:06 | <alternateved> | I can recommend openSUSE Tumbleweed for rolling release, but the package availability is not that good |
| 2022-06-29 18:54:48 | <alternateved> | geekosaur: are you sure you have to patch kde to use different wm with it? |
| 2022-06-29 18:57:14 | <geekosaur[m]> | The problem isn't using a different WM as such; it's a conflict between Plasma and how xmonad manages its windows |
| 2022-06-29 18:57:38 | <alternateved> | Ah, I see |
| 2022-06-29 19:03:16 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174 if you're interested |
| 2022-06-29 19:03:35 | <geekosaur> | kde assumes a non-tiling wm will manage them and the result is kinda bad |
| 2022-06-29 19:04:45 | <alternateved> | Yeah, someone who uses plasma with xmonad mentioned that krunner is acting up |
| 2022-06-29 19:05:28 | <alternateved> | And in the end that person is using another launcher, more suited for the challenge |
| 2022-06-29 19:06:51 | <alternateved> | I'll pass this info, maybe that will be of value to that person, thanks! |
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| 2022-06-29 20:51:06 | <mantis_one> | Hi, I just asked for help here to fix that I got a weird font on Manjaro when xmessage sent XMonad erros. I wanted to tell I've installed endeavouros and I get alphabetic normal error messages, this is good. |
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| 2022-06-29 21:50:53 | <MrElendig> | replace xmessage with one of the more modern alternatives |
| 2022-06-29 21:51:05 | <MrElendig> | xmessage is just broken |
| 2022-06-29 22:10:27 | <geekosaur> | problem is, there's no reliably available alternative |
| 2022-06-29 22:11:06 | <geekosaur> | gtkish stsrems *might* have zenity, but there are also a few alternatives. kdeish systems usually but not always have kdialog |
| 2022-06-29 22:11:26 | <geekosaur> | back in the day, xmessage was reliably available everywhere; now it's almost always an add-on |
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| 2022-06-29 22:54:56 | <geekosaur[m]> | Long term we may need to migrate various XMonad.Util modules to core and do our own messaging |
| 2022-06-29 22:57:04 | <geekosaur[m]> | Short term I have my Perl wrapper for zenity and can add kdialog support |
| 2022-06-29 22:57:58 | <geekosaur[m]> | With fallback to xmessage, which it already does |
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| 2022-06-30 01:08:21 | <twiclo1> | My xmobar config is failing and I'm not sure why: https://p.twil.cx/yoj.hs |
| 2022-06-30 01:14:39 | <twiclo1> | Oh nevermind |
| 2022-06-30 01:14:56 | <twiclo1> | Wrong chat. I still have an issue |
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