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2022-06-29 14:57:12 <geekosaur> re PR 727, I'm still not fond of `Data.Default` although I acknowledge that it makes things easier for users — but it also makes it easier for users to shoot themselves in the foot when it's not or can't be applicable, but fails to throw a type error because it can come up with a way to produce garbage (cf. #293)
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2022-06-29 16:25:56 <mantis_one> Hi everyone, Could anybody help me?
2022-06-29 16:25:56 <mantis_one> When I try to recompile XMonad sends an xmessage error in weird fonts. I've always had that issue on Manjaro and I have solved it installing xorg-fonts. Now is happening again and even though xfontsel  is showing alphabetical letters I receive this error message when recompiling xmonad: "Warning: Cannot convert string
2022-06-29 16:25:57 <mantis_one> "-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-fixed-*-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-*-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" to type FontSet"
2022-06-29 16:35:42 <geekosaur> xmonad itself doesn't use fonts, so that must be xmessage.it is possible that manjaro has dropped support for bitmapped fonts entirely, I guess, in which case you need a replacement for xmessage
2022-06-29 16:36:14 <geekosaur> (although if they dropped bitmap fonts they should really also drop the programs that only support bitmapped fonts)
2022-06-29 16:40:12 <geekosaur> (I have such a replacement but it doesn't seem to work right now; I need to switch it to debugging mode and see what the change to use it throughout core and contrib did…)
2022-06-29 16:44:30 <mantis_one> Hi, thanks for the reply geekosaur Yes it's an xmessage issue you are right, the problem for me is that it's where the xmonad error appear. When I do xmessage "Hello World" it prints fine, it just sends a warning (Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion), but it works. I have a doubt here,  it's saying it's trying to convert a
2022-06-29 16:44:30 <mantis_one> string with 3 logical font descriptions, shouldn't it be just one? and where does that string comes from? Maybe I could change it.
2022-06-29 16:45:16 <geekosaur> I expect it's from the app-defaults file
2022-06-29 16:45:25 <mantis_one> OK
2022-06-29 16:45:25 <geekosaur> we don't pass a FontSet
2022-06-29 16:45:30 <mantis_one> got it
2022-06-29 16:45:50 <mantis_one> I'll search the xmessage files
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2022-06-29 16:52:33 <Solid> geekosaur: we do pass a fontSet!
2022-06-29 16:53:27 <Solid> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/master/src/XMonad/Core.hs#L458
2022-06-29 16:54:05 <geekosaur> bleh
2022-06-29 16:54:15 <geekosaur> at least I know why my wrapper stopped working
2022-06-29 16:54:56 <geekosaur> so that means none of those fonts can be resolved, which means xorg-fonts isn't installing bitmapped fonts any more
2022-06-29 16:55:12 <geekosaur> and xmessage can't use xft fonts
2022-06-29 16:57:18 <mantis_one> Solid: thanks! Guys, that's exactly the message I'm receiving. The first font description I don't have it. Is that why is sending me an error?
2022-06-29 17:00:49 <geekosaur> it should fall back to the others if the first fails, or at least that's the intent
2022-06-29 17:02:11 <geekosaur> actually it's sending you a warning and it produces that warning if any of the specified fonts fails to load
2022-06-29 17:02:23 <geekosaur> it will generate an error if none of them can be loaded
2022-06-29 17:03:14 <mantis_one> so it's loading a font
2022-06-29 17:03:49 <mantis_one> I got a warning not an error
2022-06-29 17:04:43 <geekosaur> right, and as long as it displays something it should be okay. (sadly that's not guaranteed)
2022-06-29 17:05:12 <geekosaur> I wonder if we can at least specify the charset at the end so people don't get smacked with unexpected BIG5 or etc.
2022-06-29 17:14:37 <mantis_one> OK, so as I said, this similarly, has always happened on manjaro, but when I added a font on .Xresources it fixed the issue. Now xmessage is printing fine when I do it on my own, but printing the weird "manjaro default font" when I recompile xmonad.
2022-06-29 17:16:05 <mantis_one> Wyh could this be happening?
2022-06-29 17:16:12 <mantis_one> *Why
2022-06-29 17:21:43 <geekosaur> I don't know. bitmap fonts are server-side so user config shouldn't matter
2022-06-29 17:22:57 <geekosaur> well, actually, that suggests that xmessage's default font (including default size) is found but the one forced with -xrm isn't
2022-06-29 17:23:12 <geekosaur> I think the only size guaranteed to be around is 10
2022-06-29 17:23:50 <geekosaur> you may need to install a package with some scalable fonts
2022-06-29 17:24:06 <geekosaur> non-xft scalable fonts (probably adobe type1)
2022-06-29 17:24:32 <mantis_one> let me try that
2022-06-29 17:25:04 <geekosaur> or we should change the -xrm we send to use size 10 instead of 18
2022-06-29 17:30:54 <mantis_one> will https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/adobe-base-14-fonts be OK? It says adobe type1
2022-06-29 17:33:17 <mantis_one> it didn't work :(
2022-06-29 17:38:23 <geekosaur[m]> You would either need to log out and back in, or manually add the font path with `xset fp+` followed by the directory containing the fonts
2022-06-29 17:39:36 <geekosaur[m]> The X11 startup removes directories that are empty from the font path
2022-06-29 17:39:50 <mantis_one> I'll log out
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2022-06-29 17:47:16 <mantis_one> Hi again. OK, I tried recompiling Xmonad and  it sent this
2022-06-29 17:47:17 <mantis_one> Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-fixed-*-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-*-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" to type FontSet
2022-06-29 17:47:17 <mantis_one> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
2022-06-29 17:47:18 <mantis_one> Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" to type FontStruct
2022-06-29 17:47:18 <mantis_one> Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
2022-06-29 17:47:19 <mantis_one> Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
2022-06-29 17:47:19 <mantis_one> Error: Aborting: no font found
2022-06-29 17:47:20 <mantis_one> And xmessage run by itself sends:
2022-06-29 17:47:20 <mantis_one> Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" to type FontStruct
2022-06-29 17:47:21 <mantis_one> Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
2022-06-29 17:47:21 <mantis_one> Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
2022-06-29 17:47:22 <mantis_one> Error: Aborting: no font found
2022-06-29 17:50:56 <mantis_one> Probably this is a font and not an xmonad issue,  but I don't know what to do. I would appreciate the help. Also because of this warning: Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" to type FontStruct, I beleibe is reading my .Xresources file. It didn't show that before. I use the logical font with only *s when I'm trying to make
2022-06-29 17:50:57 <mantis_one> it work, then I put a more specific one.
2022-06-29 17:54:16 <geekosaur> that sounds very wrong, like it removed the other bitmapped fonts
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2022-06-29 18:00:22 <mantis_one> yes, I unistalled adobe-base-14-fonts. Maybe it's time for me to try another distroX)
2022-06-29 18:01:12 <geekosaur> I'm using ubuntu but I know some people don't like big fixed distros
2022-06-29 18:01:14 <mantis_one> I unistalled adobe-base-14-fonts and it's giving the same error
2022-06-29 18:01:48 <geekosaur> if it uninstalled xorg-fonts then uninstalling it won't have brought the other one back. but also check your .Xresources change
2022-06-29 18:01:48 <mantis_one> yeah, I don't like having too "old" programs
2022-06-29 18:02:05 <geekosaur> maybe you should try something like nixos
2022-06-29 18:02:32 <geekosaur> (also if you change .Xresources you either need to run `xrdb ~/.Xresources` or log out and back in
2022-06-29 18:07:49 <mantis_one> I've heard good things about nixos. I was thinking of endeavouros, since I love the aur. But I've (don't know if it's true) that manjaro presents issues thar other disttros don't. I like Manjaro for the gaming.

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