Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2023-02-24 16:40:25 | <HB[m]> | I think he is a good person and helpful |
| 2023-02-24 16:40:26 | <mazte[m]> | We love and accept you, you're alright and aren't really bothering us. Just keep in mind that it can be hard to process what's happening and reply accordingly. Some of us aren't good socially, while others aren't necessarily well equipped to understand others to a good extent. This is why I said that this seems to be a miscommunication and that a good way to go about it would be to acknowledge it and just keep it in mind for the future. |
| 2023-02-24 16:40:36 | <HB[m]> | But I understand he also have same prolblem as me and I can understand that. |
| 2023-02-24 16:41:02 | <HB[m]> | Thank you. |
| 2023-02-24 16:41:03 | <HB[m]> | I do feel better now. |
| 2023-02-24 16:41:22 | <HB[m]> | I am not only on medications but also in therapy for this too |
| 2023-02-24 16:41:46 | <HB[m]> | The medication I take helps me deal with others |
| 2023-02-24 16:41:49 | <HB[m]> | It's prescribed for autism so autistic people won't be so irritable with normal people |
| 2023-02-24 16:41:51 | <geekosaur> | you might see if you can contact your therapist now and have a talk |
| 2023-02-24 16:42:07 | <geekosaur> | mine's repeatedly told me I can contact her whenever I need to |
| 2023-02-24 16:42:11 | <HB[m]> | ok |
| 2023-02-24 16:42:30 | <HB[m]> | Please don't scold me on things becuase I'm not normal and I am extremel sensitive to it. |
| 2023-02-24 16:42:51 | <HB[m]> | If you think I made a mistake or posted a link that's not acceptable, then just be forthcoming and direct with me |
| 2023-02-24 16:42:52 | <geekosaur> | also, and I do mean this well even if I'm not expressing ot very well, try not to focus on self-pity. it'll only eat you alive from the inside |
| 2023-02-24 16:42:58 | <HB[m]> | "Hey, don't share that stuff here." |
| 2023-02-24 16:43:00 | <HB[m]> | Done deal. |
| 2023-02-24 16:43:23 | <mazte[m]> | HB[m]: Gotcha |
| 2023-02-24 16:43:39 | <HB[m]> | If you say to me, "how exactly is XYZ" I will more than likely not take that well. |
| 2023-02-24 16:44:00 | <HB[m]> | I will feel challenged, reprimanded, scoldled, all negative things. |
| 2023-02-24 16:44:12 | <HB[m]> | I appreciate forthcomingness, directness, but not sarcasm or cutting statemetns. |
| 2023-02-24 16:44:25 | <mazte[m]> | HB[m]: Because it is hard to interpret? |
| 2023-02-24 16:44:26 | <HB[m]> | Robotically is fine with me. Emotionless communication is fine with me. |
| 2023-02-24 16:44:31 | <HB[m]> | Yes. I do not know this |
| 2023-02-24 16:44:40 | <mazte[m]> | Understandable |
| 2023-02-24 16:44:41 | <HB[m]> | My disability is that I cannot interpret peopel's intentions. |
| 2023-02-24 16:44:47 | <HB[m]> | I can know my mom and dad all my luife |
| 2023-02-24 16:44:58 | <HB[m]> | and I will still constantly misundertstand them and think that they are tryhing tio hurt me |
| 2023-02-24 16:45:09 | <HB[m]> | My famiy and friends have to be careful in how they approach me otherwise I freak out. |
| 2023-02-24 16:45:31 | <liskin> | I have the same, just less severe I think |
| 2023-02-24 16:45:32 | <HB[m]> | I have metnal disabilities. Things I am not capable to do physically. |
| 2023-02-24 16:45:42 | <HB[m]> | I have to work extra hard to not misunderstand otehrs. |
| 2023-02-24 16:46:06 | <liskin> | one can try to consciously focus on trying to interpret things in a charitable way, but it does break down when one's tired or stressed |
| 2023-02-24 16:46:11 | <HB[m]> | I don't ask the world to modify themselves for me. |
| 2023-02-24 16:46:19 | <mazte[m]> | liskin: same, albeit I mean this in the "it is hard to understand others" sort of sense |
| 2023-02-24 16:46:38 | <HB[m]> | I simply ask, if you can show me a bit of coutesy and change your approach to me, that'd be great. If it's too much to ask of you, then np, just don't approach me. |
| 2023-02-24 16:46:40 | <mazte[m]> | social context, I suppose |
| 2023-02-24 16:46:50 | <liskin> | mazte[m]: I think I literally have this same thing where I tend to interpret some things as attacks on me |
| 2023-02-24 16:47:11 | <HB[m]> | I will actively misunderstand robbers and violent people tryhing to hurt me as friendly |
| 2023-02-24 16:47:18 | <liskin> | it's sometimes downright amusing when things calm down afterwards |
| 2023-02-24 16:47:21 | <HB[m]> | You may have some difficulty with it |
| 2023-02-24 16:47:26 | <HB[m]> | but my brain cannot process this. |
| 2023-02-24 16:48:18 | <HB[m]> | I do not know or can read people's intentions. I don't process this in my brain. |
| 2023-02-24 16:48:30 | × | werneta quits (~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) |
| 2023-02-24 16:48:31 | <mazte[m]> | HB[m]: I'll try. If I don't, feel free to remind me |
| 2023-02-24 16:48:45 | <liskin> | like this one time when our boss had a presentation and said that the migration to Outlook was a success, and my brain instantly went into "what the fuck are you saying I don't exist are you saying this abomination of a thing that made my life miserable was a win? I'm gonna report you to HR immediately for offending me you motherfucker" |
| 2023-02-24 16:49:29 | <HB[m]> | It's a constant storm inside the mind. |
| 2023-02-24 16:49:34 | <HB[m]> | Not a moment of rest or peace. |
| 2023-02-24 16:49:37 | <HB[m]> | It's exhuasting. |
| 2023-02-24 16:50:24 | <mazte[m]> | liskin: Ironically enough, I tend to interpret some statements and emotions as not emotional, if that makes sense. It makes for awkward and sometimes strange/funny situations |
| 2023-02-24 16:50:31 | <HB[m]> | If I can finally trust a person and know they're not trying to hurt me, then they can joke around, say things, be sarcastic, whatever. I don't mind at that point. |
| 2023-02-24 16:50:41 | <HB[m]> | But I don't know what helps me to get there. |
| 2023-02-24 16:51:00 | <liskin> | mazte[m]: I think I need an example |
| 2023-02-24 16:51:01 | <mazte[m]> | HB[m]: I get you, I think |
| 2023-02-24 16:51:01 | <HB[m]> | Perhaps repeated offtopic interactions with that person |
| 2023-02-24 16:51:02 | <HB[m]> | On a personal level. |
| 2023-02-24 16:51:08 | <HB[m]> | Friendliness |
| 2023-02-24 16:51:16 | <HB[m]> | Then I don't mistrust people. |
| 2023-02-24 16:51:27 | <HB[m]> | Generally. I still misundstand intentions |
| 2023-02-24 16:51:40 | <HB[m]> | But it's not as bad. |
| 2023-02-24 16:52:04 | <HB[m]> | The hardest thing on this planet is communication with others. |
| 2023-02-24 16:52:09 | <geekosaur> | I'm still trying to figure out where I was being "sarcastic". |
| 2023-02-24 16:52:10 | <HB[m]> | Our internal dictionairies do not match |
| 2023-02-24 16:52:21 | <HB[m]> | Maybe you were not |
| 2023-02-24 16:52:28 | <geekosaur> | biut that might be as much my internal dictionary not matching |
| 2023-02-24 16:52:40 | <HB[m]> | I interpreted it that way maybe due to my upset |
| 2023-02-24 16:52:47 | <HB[m]> | Now that I think about it |
| 2023-02-24 16:52:53 | <HB[m]> | What reason would yhou have to want to hurt me? |
| 2023-02-24 16:53:03 | <HB[m]> | None that I can reason. |
| 2023-02-24 16:53:16 | <HB[m]> | So more than likely in my emotinonal state I misunderstood your inteintions |
| 2023-02-24 16:53:23 | <HB[m]> | Even though I 've known you for a few years |
| 2023-02-24 16:53:28 | <HB[m]> | We get along and are friendly together |
| 2023-02-24 16:53:46 | <HB[m]> | Yet I still misunderstood your intentions |
| 2023-02-24 16:54:04 | <HB[m]> | Just like my family... it's no different. I can't do this skill mentally inmy brain |
| 2023-02-24 16:54:07 | <HB[m]> | I have to work extra hard to not think people are trying to hurt me. |
| 2023-02-24 16:54:25 | <HB[m]> | 4 decades of mental abuse will fuck up any brain. |
| 2023-02-24 16:55:43 | → | kora9 joins (~kora@user/Kora9) |
| 2023-02-24 16:56:17 | <mazte[m]> | <liskin> "mazte: I think I need an example" <- Back when I was in school, a girl asking me to a dance, but I, being the genius I am, laughing at it because I interpreted as a joke, and her practically almost slapping me due to how it came off — the following days were what I can only describe as extremely awkward. Apply that same general logic to various situation, then you can say bingo |
| 2023-02-24 16:56:23 | <kora9> | Is it possible to make dual-monitor xmonad sane with independent workspaces for each monitor? The weird interconnectedness between them makes absolutely no sense to me |
| 2023-02-24 16:56:59 | <Solid> | kora9: there is an IndependentScreens module |
| 2023-02-24 16:57:23 | <Solid> | (but I would encourage you to at least try to get used to XMonad's model—it'll feel natural after a while, I promise :) |
| 2023-02-24 16:57:26 | <mazte[m]> | HB[m]: Understandable. I'm glad we came to an understanding and spoke about it |
| 2023-02-24 16:57:29 | <liskin> | mazte[m]: that's a good one, yeah |
| 2023-02-24 16:57:38 | <kora9> | Solid: Oh nice, does it work for what I'm trying to achieve? I want 4 workspaces per monitor, 1-4 is monitor 1 and 5-9 is monitor 2 |
| 2023-02-24 16:57:52 | <HB[m]> | I'm sorry if I made you feel bad geekosaur |
| 2023-02-24 16:58:02 | <HB[m]> | Please forgive me and my mental issues. |
| 2023-02-24 16:58:21 | <kora9> | Solid: I tried, but it's so bizarre! :D Is there a good doc that simply explains what's going on with it? |
| 2023-02-24 16:58:29 | <mazte[m]> | I'm gonna stop replying now that others are asking topic relevant questions |
| 2023-02-24 16:59:18 | <Solid> | kora9: I mean, the basic idea is that all monitors simply share one set of workspaces |
| 2023-02-24 16:59:53 | <Solid> | so switching workspaces has to do *something* because you can't show the same workspace on two monitors |
| 2023-02-24 17:00:18 | <Solid> | and the most natural thing to do (maybe this is "your brain on XMonad") would then be to swap them |
| 2023-02-24 17:01:11 | <mazte[m]> | s/situation/situations/ |
| 2023-02-24 17:01:21 | <liskin> | but this being xmonad, you can choose what happens when you switch |
| 2023-02-24 17:01:37 | <Solid> | ah yes, there's a non-greedy view as well |
| 2023-02-24 17:01:49 | <liskin> | so if you swap greedyView for view, it just switches to the other monitor if that already displays that workspace |
| 2023-02-24 17:01:54 | <kora9> | Solid: Oh, so that's what's going on. Maybe it'll make more sense to my brain now that I know to expect that selecting an existing workspace swaps it |
| 2023-02-24 17:02:18 | <kora9> | Solid: Yes, I tried using W.view which seemed moderately more sane but still didn't seem independent? |
| 2023-02-24 17:02:33 | <liskin> | yeah view isn't meant to be independent |
| 2023-02-24 17:02:52 | <Solid> | yes it's to be seen as a less… "aggressive" version of greedyView |
| 2023-02-24 17:03:02 | <kora9> | To be honest, most of xmonad is too big to fit in my brain, but I love what it does so much that I'm really trying to understand it :) |
| 2023-02-24 17:03:04 | <liskin> | switching to a workspace already visible on another monitor is disruptive in one way or another |
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