Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2022-10-28 16:51:06 | <geekosaur> | mm, not quite seeing it. but I'm about to catch a bus so I'm a bit distracted… |
| 2022-10-28 16:52:42 | <[Leary]> | Have a look at `X.O.windowBracket` when you get the chance; this logic is already implemented there and used in `sendMessage`. |
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| 2022-10-28 17:55:45 | <dminuoso> | So slack in the newest version decides to seemingly draw a white square in the middle of a window when a huddle is opened. |
| 2022-10-28 17:56:10 | <dminuoso> | Given that xprop returns only with the window manager, Im wondering: is there a mechanism for programs to draw directly on canvas without a window? |
| 2022-10-28 17:56:59 | <dminuoso> | That white rectangle something is also not draggable, but seems to be a) behind windows that are being dragged, a) behind windows that are not pushed in, but c) in front of everything else |
| 2022-10-28 17:58:06 | <dminuoso> | (or rather, xprop will return information for whatever is behind that square |
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| 2022-10-28 17:59:46 | <dminuoso> | https://i.imgur.com/sbuUpuS.png is what it looks like |
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| 2022-10-28 19:12:03 | <geekosaur> | you can't just scribble over other windows like that in X11 |
| 2022-10-28 19:14:14 | <geekosaur> | X clips at window borders, so the closest you'd get is drawing to the root window but that would appear below all other windows |
| 2022-10-28 19:15:27 | <geekosaur> | what you describe for its z-placement sounds like it's a floating window, possibly unmanaged (but then, why is xprop not working?) |
| 2022-10-28 19:15:34 | <geekosaur> | does xwininfo work? |
| 2022-10-28 19:17:52 | <geekosaur> | [Leary], interesting. I see you added those in 2018. I'll defer to liskin on this but if it's working for you then it's probably okay |
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| 2022-10-28 19:24:35 | <geekosaur> | sorry for delays, I was at the store |
| 2022-10-28 19:30:56 | <[Leary]> | No worries, thanks for looking into it. |
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| 2022-10-28 21:08:29 | <Guest7732> | Hi, I am new to XMonad and I was wondering if I could have rounded cornners for the windows and xmobar WITHOUT using a picom fork |
| 2022-10-28 21:09:49 | <geekosaur> | nope |
| 2022-10-28 21:10:22 | <geekosaur> | xmonad uses old-style window borders, they're boringly square and depth 1 |
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| 2022-10-28 22:33:42 | <thyriaen_> | Is there a way to not draw a border around a specific application ? and is there a way to have a certain workspace always use fullscreen ( or make a workspace fullscreen as soon as a certain application appears ? ) |
| 2022-10-28 22:35:16 | <vrs> | thyriaen_: smartborders in https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Layout-NoBorders.html and https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Layout-PerWorkspace.html |
| 2022-10-28 22:38:58 | <geekosaur> | \smartBorders would be all apps in a workspace though, not a specific app |
| 2022-10-28 22:39:51 | <geekosaur> | manageHook: className =? "Whatever" --> ask >>= \w -> liftX (withDisplay $ \d -> io $ setWindowBorderWidth d w 0 >> idHook) |
| 2022-10-28 23:23:23 | <[Leary]> | `setInitialProperties` runs in `windows` afterwards, so it won't stick if you change border width in the `manageHook`. |
| 2022-10-28 23:24:07 | <geekosaur> | sigh. I keep forgetting that |
| 2022-10-28 23:24:14 | geekosaur | wonders if that can be reordered |
| 2022-10-28 23:24:21 | <[Leary]> | Looks like X.H.BorderPerWindow can do it, though, by postponing the action to the `logHook`. |
| 2022-10-28 23:24:24 | <[Leary]> | thyriaen_: ^ |
| 2022-10-28 23:26:20 | <[Leary]> | Re the reording, frankly it's weird for `setInitialProperties` to run anywhere but `manage`. Maybe it's necessary for reading in old windowsets from the state file or something? |
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| 2022-10-28 23:32:35 | <thyriaen_> | i will look into it thanks |
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| 2022-10-28 23:40:22 | <geekosaur> | you'd want a changed borderWidth to take effect across mod-q |
| 2022-10-28 23:40:59 | <[Leary]> | Ah, right. |
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| 2022-10-29 00:18:35 | <dminuoso> | geekosaur: xwininfo says its the root window |
| 2022-10-29 00:23:08 | <dminuoso> | Im starting to think, is there a way to get information about *all* windows currently active? |
| 2022-10-29 00:24:58 | <dminuoso> | I think I have a window id |
| 2022-10-29 00:25:05 | <geekosaur> | queryTree starting from the root window for all windows, W.integrate' for windows in the StackSet |
| 2022-10-29 00:25:18 | <dminuoso> | `wmctrl -l` seemed like the easier thing :) |
| 2022-10-29 00:27:32 | <dminuoso> | https://gist.github.com/dminuoso/a613cb39b04c9dc6895f0d9573f1e58a |
| 2022-10-29 00:27:38 | <dminuoso> | Im about 70% sure its the right window |
| 2022-10-29 00:29:22 | <dminuoso> | Window type: Huddles-host-draw-window |
| 2022-10-29 00:33:08 | <dminuoso> | That... seems like breaking the specs |
| 2022-10-29 00:33:20 | <dminuoso> | https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s05.html |
| 2022-10-29 00:33:23 | <dminuoso> | _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE |
| 2022-10-29 00:33:33 | <dminuoso> | `The Client SHOULD specify window types in order of preference (the first being most preferable) but MUST include at least one of the basic window type atoms from the list below. This is to allow for extension of the list of types whilst providing default behavior for Window Managers that do not recognize the extensions.` |
| 2022-10-29 00:35:58 | <liskin> | Yeah inventing new ewmh window types is not something you're meant to do these days |
| 2022-10-29 00:36:27 | <liskin> | Even if you tried to actually discuss it with the community and standardize it you'd still be told to fuck off |
| 2022-10-29 00:38:00 | <dminuoso> | Im more concerned with the lack of a basic type at all. |
| 2022-10-29 00:38:24 | <dminuoso> | Meaning there's no fallback if you dont support this magic exotic window type (which by itself dont really care about) |
| 2022-10-29 00:39:45 | <dminuoso> | Can this explain the behavior? Im trying to find any refernece in xmonad where the window type is being inspected in vain |
| 2022-10-29 00:52:16 | <liskin> | I'm unfortunately drunk and half asleep so unable to help further at this point. |
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| 2022-10-29 05:52:37 | <xmonadtrack> | New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/772 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/772 |
| 2022-10-29 05:52:37 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Illia Bobyr https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/772 * v0.17.1-53-g5ee71cf0: EwmhDesktops: _NET_CLIENT_LIST_STACKING: In focus order (37 minutes ago, 2 files, 30+ 4-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/5ee71cf05681 |
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| 2022-10-29 09:07:08 | <thyriaen> | is there a focus screen on hover ? because when i mouse over a window in my 2nd screen and then press mod-shift-2 it throws the window into my first screen - i first have to click one time on my second monitor giving it "real" focus -- so there is this strange phase where a window on my 2nd monitor has focus but my monitor does not yet |
| 2022-10-29 09:07:42 | <thyriaen> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/tW5WjuR5 |
| 2022-10-29 09:24:14 | <thyriaen> | brb |
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| 2022-10-29 09:55:17 | <dminuoso> | Mmm, this window is iconified. |
| 2022-10-29 09:55:42 | <thyriaen> | iconified ? |
| 2022-10-29 09:55:49 | <dminuoso> | Yes |
| 2022-10-29 09:55:58 | <dminuoso> | Not talking about your problem, though. |
| 2022-10-29 11:26:33 | <thyriaen> | what do you mean ? |
| 2022-10-29 11:32:10 | <thyriaen> | i have the same issue as https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/364 but my window shows the root window |
| 2022-10-29 11:59:34 | <thyriaen> | another "issue" i have: if i have a twopane layout i want to have a single button to push a window form left to right pane and if i press it again to the right monitor and another button for the other direction |
| 2022-10-29 12:00:15 | <thyriaen> | and can i set default layouts of my workspaces ? |
| 2022-10-29 12:08:29 | <thyriaen> | i basically want this behaviour in all 4 cases of setups: https://ibb.co/drt1319 |
| 2022-10-29 12:08:42 | <thyriaen> | with one button |
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