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2022-10-25 16:08:06 <reo42[m]> Here is the first lines of config:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/c7ab6483374bd31f361082969e766c91ef4bf3aa>)
2022-10-25 16:08:19 <reo42[m]> main = do
2022-10-25 16:08:20 <reo42[m]> xmonad . ewmhFullscreen . ewmh . xmobarProp $ def
2022-10-25 16:08:34 <reo42[m]> * ```
2022-10-25 16:08:34 <reo42[m]> myStartupHook = do
2022-10-25 16:08:34 <reo42[m]> spawnOnce "xmobar"
2022-10-25 16:08:34 <reo42[m]> ```
2022-10-25 16:10:08 <reo42[m]> Xmobar seems working (except the weird "updating" message) when I run it manually. Actually I searched for this a lot but most of the configs are for really old versions of xmonad. I use 0.17.1.
2022-10-25 16:10:34 <reo42[m]> * Here is the first lines of config:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/face8ea0b44856a196caee0d71dd9ebc4c82961a>)
2022-10-25 16:10:34 <reo42[m]> * ```haskell
2022-10-25 16:10:34 <reo42[m]> myStartupHook = do
2022-10-25 16:10:34 <reo42[m]> spawnOnce "xmobar"
2022-10-25 16:10:34 <reo42[m]> ```
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2022-10-25 16:19:54 <geekosaur> it should be withEasySB, I think. see https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html
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2022-10-25 16:22:38 <geekosaur> also, if you're getting that "Updating" message, it sounds like xmobar is configured for input from stdin instead of a property; it would simply exit if you then tried to pass it input with a property instead of using a pipe
2022-10-25 16:23:02 <geekosaur> (we're moving away from the pipe stuff, it breaks in unfortunate ways if you set it up wrong)
2022-10-25 16:23:35 <geekosaur> that is, xmobarrc has StdinReader configured instead of XMonadPropRead
2022-10-25 16:32:49 <reo42[m]> <geekosaur> "also, if you're getting that "..." <- The problem is autostarting xmobar on xmonad config. I'll take a look at configuring xmobar later.
2022-10-25 16:33:43 <geekosaur> my point was, if xmobar is using StdinReader but you're using xmobarProp, xmobar will immediately exit because it has no stdin
2022-10-25 16:34:53 <reo42[m]> geekosaur: Oh, got it, thanks
2022-10-25 16:34:54 <geekosaur> the other thing to watch out for is terminals have your full PATH but X11 sessions usually don't, so if xmobar isn't in /usr/bin it won't be found
2022-10-25 16:36:33 <geekosaur> on debian-likes I drop https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/10profile in /etc/X11/Xsession.d to give my session a full path
2022-10-25 16:36:40 <geekosaur> this may not work on other systems
2022-10-25 16:38:04 <geekosaur> (assumes your PATH is set in ~/.profile; won't work if you put it in .bashrc or .bash_profile or etc.)
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2022-10-25 17:05:28 <thyriaen> I would like a setup where my non-primary monitor ( if it exsists ) is always bound to one workspace. No swapping going on and I want that this workspace stays there no matter what and i can move windows to and from that monitor with mod+w and mod+r ( i would basically create an extra workspace but how do i fix it to the 2nd monitor ? ) and everything should work as normal when i don't have a 2nd monitor
2022-10-25 17:07:25 <geekosaur> sounds like a variant of IndependentScreens
2022-10-25 17:07:48 <geekosaur> you just wouldn't ever switch workspaces on that monitor
2022-10-25 17:07:50 <thyriaen> really ? doesn't independent screens always double my workspaces ?
2022-10-25 17:08:21 <thyriaen> i mean i am running a independent screen setup
2022-10-25 17:08:45 <geekosaur> there is otherwise no good way to separate workspaces by monitor
2022-10-25 17:09:08 <thyriaen> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/Q4HeyPnI
2022-10-25 17:09:38 <thyriaen> so i cannot just create 7 instead of 6 workspaces and then fix the 7th to the monitor ?
2022-10-25 17:12:09 <geekosaur> you might be able to if you change all the keybindings to avoid swapping that workspace to the other monitor or etc.
2022-10-25 17:19:04 <thyriaen> geekosaur, ok but in general i have to use independent screens
2022-10-25 17:19:27 <thyriaen> if workspaces should be somehow linked to monitors there is no way around independentScreens ?
2022-10-25 17:33:44 <geekosaur> not currently
2022-10-25 17:33:57 <thyriaen> ok thanks
2022-10-25 17:34:08 <geekosaur> I could imagine someone making a cut-down version at some point, but currently that's the only way
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2022-10-25 17:39:25 <thyriaen> ok i will stick with that way then
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2022-10-25 17:46:06 <geekosaur> basically you need all they keybinding changes from IndependentScreens, possibly with some additions to deal with attempts to move off the other monitor's workspace, minus all the extra workspaces
2022-10-25 17:46:33 <geekosaur> xmonad's not really designed for that use case (or for IndependentScreens, to be honest)
2022-10-25 17:47:03 <thyriaen> what would be the best way to deal with workspaces on my other screen without IndependentScreens ?
2022-10-25 17:48:03 <geekosaur> I think the closest you get is https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Actions-DynamicWorkspaceGroups.html but that's not what you want either
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2022-10-25 17:53:32 <thyriaen> not sure i get what it is supposed to do xD
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2022-10-25 17:54:45 <geekosaur> it lets you link workspaces between monitors, so for example if you linked workspaces 2 and 6 together then when workspace 2 is on one monitor then workspace 6 would always be on the other
2022-10-25 17:55:08 <geekosaur> but it's 1-to-1 so you couldn't simply pick a workspace and link it to all the others
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2022-10-25 17:55:58 <thyriaen> ah
2022-10-25 17:56:02 <thyriaen> no i don't want to do that
2022-10-25 17:56:17 <thyriaen> i want to still swtich all my workspaces on monitor 1 while monitor 2 stays the same
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2022-10-25 19:06:59 <jabuxas> I have `myWorkspaces = ["dev", "web", "irc", "gfx", "vm", "music", "email", "x"]` set in my config right now. I had before set `... "email", "x", "xx"] for lack of criativity, so I now decided to remove the last workspace.

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