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2022-10-25 19:07:33 <jabuxas> It works ok, when I do mod+9, doesn't take me anywhere. The only problem I'm having is that xmobar still shows that last workspace on the bar, but I don't have it anymore.
2022-10-25 19:08:45 <jabuxas> what could be the reason?
2022-10-25 19:09:11 <geekosaur> it will until you log out and back in, because the old one was copied across the restart in the layout information
2022-10-25 19:09:33 <geekosaur> this is a hard to fix shortcoming of how xmonad saves and restores layout information across mod-q restarts
2022-10-25 19:11:29 <jabuxas> well thankfully it will work after a logout then, that is something good. I was confused because when I got the config from a friend, they only had 5 workspaces and the bar looked normal, and I apparently had only changed the number of workspaces so I was very baffled at why it would "break" on me.
2022-10-25 19:11:38 <jabuxas> thank you again geekosaur :)
2022-10-25 19:11:39 <geekosaur> mm, I suppose hypothetically we could just not serialize any ws with an empty stack
2022-10-25 19:11:54 <geekosaur> \not sure if that would break anything off the top of my head
2022-10-25 19:18:41 <geekosaur> (liskin?)
2022-10-25 20:04:58 <thyriaen> geekosaur, can i ask what you use as a xdg file picker ?
2022-10-25 20:07:19 <geekosaur[m]> I run XMonad with MATE so I use its file picker
2022-10-25 20:08:06 <thyriaen> ok
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2022-10-25 20:59:42 <liskin> geekosaur: we'd need to initialise hidden workspaces at start anyway, and it's not exactly obvious what the final set of workspaces should be given (workspaces from config, workspaces from previous run)
2022-10-25 21:00:53 <liskin> but once it's clear what workspaces should exist in the new instance there doesn't seem to be much potential for breakage
2022-10-25 21:03:14 <liskin> if I'm reading the code right what currently happens is that xmonad starts with whatever workspaces are in config, empty, and the first call to windows replaces the windowset with the one loaded from the state file; this code would simply adjust the loaded windowset to have the desired workspaces
2022-10-25 21:03:28 <liskin> don't think anything can break by doing that
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2022-10-25 21:36:05 <geekosaur> hm, I've generally seen workspaces that come from the state file that aren't in the initiial config appear at the end of the workspace list. did this change?
2022-10-25 21:48:08 <liskin> no, that's completely unrelated, I think
2022-10-25 21:49:10 <liskin> X.H.StatusBar sorts workspaces to match the order in the config, because the order in windowset isn't very useful
2022-10-25 21:49:45 <liskin> and workspaces not in the config get sorted somewhere… :-)
2022-10-25 21:53:48 <geekosaur> ah
2022-10-25 21:54:04 <geekosaur> and I looked at the code, it seems you're right
2022-10-25 21:54:21 <geekosaur> well, was a good idea while it lasted
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2022-10-26 05:31:44 <reo42[m]> <geekosaur> "that is, xmobarrc has StdinReade..." <- XMonadPropRead solved the autostart problem but Update message was still there. I tried to add it to commands list (people use StdinReader and UnsafeStdinReader at commands, I thought this would solve) and another weird error:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/90882c17f9fecef793a8c6c634c1e827f02d05ff>)
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2022-10-26 05:43:08 <reo42[m]> The other thing is, current official tutorial use XMonadProp instead of StdinReader, but I've never found a person that use it in the internet.
2022-10-26 05:49:09 <Solid> reo42[m]: I don't think XMonadPropRead is an actual xmobar module
2022-10-26 05:49:22 <Solid> and yes, you should use XMonadProp instead of StdinReader if you follow the tutorial
2022-10-26 05:49:24 <Solid> (and you should!)
2022-10-26 05:55:02 <reo42[m]> <Solid> "reo42: I don't think XMonadPropR..." <- I guess I need a resource that covers xmonad + xmobar with XMobarProp and XMonadPropRead.
2022-10-26 05:55:14 <reo42[m]> I couldn't find any yet.
2022-10-26 05:55:15 <Solid> that resource is the tutorial :)
2022-10-26 05:56:08 <reo42[m]> Solid: OOPS, damn
2022-10-26 05:56:11 <reo42[m]> Sorry, thanks :D
2022-10-26 05:57:04 <reo42[m]> Ah, it is ``XMonadLog``
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2022-10-26 11:17:58 <geekosaur> sorry, I misremembered. I don't use xmobar
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