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| 2021-11-25 00:27:08 | <geekosaur> | hm, guess I should have also updated from hackage before pushing that button |
| 2021-11-25 00:33:59 | <geekosaur> | right, and now things are rebuilding again. figgerz |
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| 2021-11-25 09:16:48 | <Vermoot> | I've finally managed to make window decorations work |
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| 2021-11-25 09:17:03 | <Vermoot> | Not that I'd want them to be on all the time, and for now they look like poo |
| 2021-11-25 09:17:06 | <Vermoot> | BUT |
| 2021-11-25 09:17:20 | <Vermoot> | I'm looking for a way to have them on on floating windows |
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| 2021-11-25 09:17:32 | <Vermoot> | and/or to map a keybind fo make them appear/disappear |
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| 2021-11-25 09:54:48 | <Vermoot> | Any idea why my window decorations have a gap between the titlebar and the window? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/635625925748457482/913366887608496168/unknown.png?width=1053&height=658 |
| 2021-11-25 09:56:29 | <Vermoot> | (My config is here https://github.com/Vermoot/dotfiles/blob/linux/xmonad/xmonad.hs ) |
| 2021-11-25 12:19:56 | <geekosaur> | because you're using Spacing and the titlebars are (semi-)managed, so they get laid out with spacing as well, I think |
| 2021-11-25 12:56:09 | <Vermoot> | geekosaur, kinda annoying to fix then innit |
| 2021-11-25 12:59:17 | <Vermoot> | Also I asked in a 15 second window where you weren't here, but you might know: I'm looking for a way to have decorations on floating windows, as well as a function to hide/show decorations with a keybind |
| 2021-11-25 13:07:12 | <geekosaur> | floating windows are handled completely differently and I don't think we have any hooks to decorate them; this is actually related to the other question because decorations are managed by the layout (hence spacing) but layouts can't touch floats |
| 2021-11-25 13:07:46 | <geekosaur> | hypothetically one could write a hide/show keybinding but I think it would require changes to Decoration? |
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| 2021-11-25 13:13:02 | <liskin> | Solid, mc47, geekosaur: https://opencollective.com/opensource/updates/training-coaching-and-workshops-for-community-leaders, or https://opencollective.com/opensource/updates/open-source-collective-community-call-nov-21 if you want to have it explained by Sumana herself (and see me speaking like an idiot) |
| 2021-11-25 13:13:05 | <geekosaur> | mhhhh, there's a Hide message but no obvious way to show them again |
| 2021-11-25 13:13:26 | <liskin> | (I did register for that during the call last week) |
| 2021-11-25 13:13:32 | <geekosaur> | liskin, yeh, I saw that. that's actually the kind of thing I'd hoped the HF would help address |
| 2021-11-25 13:15:35 | <geekosaur> | Vermoot, I think Hide is intended for switching workspaces and they get redrawn when you switch back, so it's not quite what you want |
| 2021-11-25 13:18:18 | <mc47> | liskin: thanks for the tip, that's very cool! The time span isn't that ideal for me though. How many spots are there? |
| 2021-11-25 13:18:31 | <liskin> | mc47: I have absolutely no idea |
| 2021-11-25 13:24:17 | <Vermoot> | geekosaur, alright, thanks. I might start an issue on the xmonad or the xmonad-contrib github, see where that takes us in a more distant future? |
| 2021-11-25 13:25:08 | <Vermoot> | I've seen someone in a 6-year-old reddit post who did make decorations on floating windows work, but they had to modify some pretty deep parts of xmonad from what I understand |
| 2021-11-25 13:25:36 | <liskin> | Vermoot: take a look at X.C.Bluetile for decorated floats |
| 2021-11-25 13:25:49 | <geekosaur> | yes, doing anything useful with floats would require a fair amount of work |
| 2021-11-25 13:26:21 | <liskin> | (there's a layout that replicates the floating layer using a "tiling" layout and some extensible state and you can use decorations normally with this one) |
| 2021-11-25 13:26:42 | <liskin> | Not sure if this can be combined with an actual tiling layout as well though :-/ |
| 2021-11-25 13:27:07 | <geekosaur> | potentially it could be a layout modifier |
| 2021-11-25 13:27:17 | <geekosaur> | probably be a lot more work though |
| 2021-11-25 13:28:14 | <Vermoot> | Yeah from what I understand it seems weird that decorations are a layout modifier thing; to me it would make more sense for them to be related to windows rather than layouts |
| 2021-11-25 13:29:12 | <geekosaur> | problem there is xmonad doesn't really have a way to associate things with windows as such |
| 2021-11-25 13:30:14 | <geekosaur> | xmonad is about the StackSet and layouts, which is why floats are an afterthought |
| 2021-11-25 13:31:47 | <Solid> | liskin: anything interesting that you learned from this hour long conversation that I sort of don't want to watch right now? :D |
| 2021-11-25 13:32:28 | <liskin> | Solid: I don't think there's anything extra to what's out there in writing |
| 2021-11-25 13:32:36 | <liskin> | just people talking :-) |
| 2021-11-25 13:32:41 | <Solid> | I see |
| 2021-11-25 13:35:05 | <liskin> | maybe this one bit about CoCs, someone mentioned that it'd be nice if projects could "outsource" that stuff (especially the complaint handling and enforment part) to someone qualified and I said I totally agree because we're all idiots |
| 2021-11-25 13:35:16 | <liskin> | (not used those words exactly, obviously) |
| 2021-11-25 13:37:54 | <Solid> | might as well have :P |
| 2021-11-25 13:37:59 | <Solid> | but yeah, stuff like that'd be great |
| 2021-11-25 13:42:33 | <Solid> | I think currently it would be nice to decide on what to do with the money in a semi-sustainable way (I personally thought we'd be on like 3 supporters forever, so this positive response really caught me by surprise :) |
| 2021-11-25 13:52:57 | <liskin> | yeah and it looks like other projects struggle with this too, even those with ten times more donations |
| 2021-11-25 13:53:14 | <Solid> | Oo |
| 2021-11-25 13:54:16 | <liskin> | like the guy from OBS who said they aren't spending it either because nobody is ready to quit a job without having some certainty that they'll be funded for several years |
| 2021-11-25 13:54:35 | <liskin> | especially people in the US, where healthcare and pensions are a total clusterfuck |
| 2021-11-25 13:55:37 | <Solid> | but couldn't they just collect it in addition to their job? |
| 2021-11-25 13:55:48 | <Solid> | like being an "independent contractor" on the side or something |
| 2021-11-25 13:56:07 | <liskin> | right now I'm thinking we're in the ballpark of conference tickets, maybe small motivational pocket money, possibly even fund a student for a couple months |
| 2021-11-25 13:56:21 | <liskin> | well yeah but will they then work more on the project? |
| 2021-11-25 13:56:34 | <liskin> | or will they need to negotiate a part-time job? |
| 2021-11-25 13:57:02 | <Solid> | well, presumably people like their work _right now_ enough to give them money |
| 2021-11-25 13:57:05 | <liskin> | (which is what I'm doing now, but I'll still work less on xmonad than I did last year) |
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| 2021-11-25 14:03:06 | <Solid> | well, me too (since I'm technically not a student anymore now), but it seems that people are still excited about this |
| 2021-11-25 14:03:34 | <Solid> | I suppose the question is whether they'll still be there in two months |
| 2021-11-25 14:03:52 | <ianliu> | Yesterday I was on a Zoom call, sharing my desktop, which went well until someone tried to use the Zoom feature that draws over the screen. When he tried to do that, my screen opened a black window over everything. Has anyone experienced this? |
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