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2022-04-28 11:15:50 <geekosaur> gdb unlikley to help in your case
2022-04-28 11:16:13 <abastro[m]> :< why? geekosaur
2022-04-28 11:16:30 <abastro[m]> Sad..
2022-04-28 11:16:42 <geekosaur> I told you before, by the time you get that invalid closure it's already too late and there won't be a way to trace it back to its source
2022-04-28 11:17:54 <geekosaur> xinit /usr/bin/gdb /path/to/xmonad -- /usr/bin/Xephyr :1 (or :2 or something that is not already in use)
2022-04-28 11:18:35 <Ether[m]> I would like to create my own swap left function. How do i execute this sequence;
2022-04-28 11:18:35 <Ether[m]> 1. sendMessage $ Go R
2022-04-28 11:18:35 <Ether[m]> 2. sendMessage $ Swap L
2022-04-28 11:18:35 <Ether[m]> 3. sendMessage $ Go R
2022-04-28 11:18:54 <Ether[m]> One key bind for all.
2022-04-28 11:19:01 <Ether[m]> Impossible?
2022-04-28 11:21:22 <geekosaur> you should be able to join them with >> or *>, but you'll have to replace the $ with parentheses
2022-04-28 11:21:45 <abastro[m]> do
2022-04-28 11:21:45 <abastro[m]> sendMessage (Go R)
2022-04-28 11:21:45 <abastro[m]> sendMessage (Swap L)
2022-04-28 11:21:45 <abastro[m]> sendMessage (Go R)
2022-04-28 11:21:56 <geekosaur> yes
2022-04-28 11:21:57 <abastro[m]> A bit too advanced, ye
2022-04-28 11:22:03 <Ether[m]> How do i bind?
2022-04-28 11:22:08 <Ether[m]> M-l
2022-04-28 11:22:39 <abastro[m]> Wdym by bind
2022-04-28 11:22:54 <Ether[m]> I need this sequence as a binding
2022-04-28 11:23:20 <abastro[m]> Bound to a key?
2022-04-28 11:23:28 <Ether[m]> Yes
2022-04-28 11:23:38 <abastro[m]> Just put what I said in the place where actions go
2022-04-28 11:23:43 <geekosaur> just do it. nothing wrong with a multi-line binding
2022-04-28 11:23:56 <Ether[m]> No comma?
2022-04-28 11:23:58 <abastro[m]> It's okay to have multiple lines e.g. for single action
2022-04-28 11:24:12 <geekosaur> or use >> as I said, or even do with semicolons
2022-04-28 11:24:30 <geekosaur> ("M-l", do ...)
2022-04-28 11:24:54 <Ether[m]> Thanks
2022-04-28 11:25:10 <Ether[m]> Is there a way to speed up the execution?
2022-04-28 11:25:13 <abastro[m]> Just to explode your head, you can also do `traverse_ sendMessage [Go R, Swap L, Go R]`
2022-04-28 11:26:07 abastro[m] sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/0866f50250154fe7bff69644322f36e8cac66bb9
2022-04-28 11:26:24 <geekosaur> use sendMessageWithNoRefresh and then refresh afterward
2022-04-28 11:29:17 Ether[m] uploaded an image: (520KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/zsDvqXlbcsHIlgJRGcQrslbT/20220428_172856_2034483521913583835.jpg >
2022-04-28 11:29:53 <geekosaur> it's "traverse_ saendMessage" with a space
2022-04-28 11:29:56 <geekosaur> er
2022-04-28 11:30:05 <geekosaur> "traverse_ sendMessage"
2022-04-28 11:30:39 <geekosaur> the convention is that a name ending in "_" produces only () as a result, which we use when the result of "traverse" would be a list of ()
2022-04-28 11:31:35 Ether[m] uploaded an image: (456KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/YdgsrjKUuSinpWsZnlAMlXqT/20220428_173118_4076804114934602720.jpg >
2022-04-28 11:34:47 <abastro[m]> Ouch. You could import Data.Foldable to fix it.
2022-04-28 11:34:47 <abastro[m]> I should have not mentioned the traverse_ way.. I meant it mostly as a lterrible) joke
2022-04-28 11:35:50 <Ether[m]> Actually the smallest and cleanest piece of code for this
2022-04-28 11:37:45 <Ether[m]> Works like a charm!
2022-04-28 11:37:59 <Ether[m]> Thanks geekosaur and abastro..
2022-04-28 11:41:37 <geekosaur> you may still want to try the sendMessageWithNoRefresh way to make it a bit faster
2022-04-28 11:41:53 <geekosaur> traverse_ sendMessageWithNoRefresh [...] >> refresh
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2022-04-28 12:24:02 <Ether[m]> Its fast enough, will experiment with it, Thanks
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2022-04-28 13:23:47 <Ether[m]> Why is this not the default? It seems extremely sane to me!
2022-04-28 13:24:36 <Ether[m]> It works with all layouts.
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2022-04-28 13:31:17 <geekosaur> mostly for historical reasons
2022-04-28 13:31:30 <geekosaur> most people except the current default, which came from dwm
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2022-04-28 13:47:50 <Ether[m]> <geekosaur> "you may still want to try the..." <- How does this change execution speed?
2022-04-28 13:48:19 <geekosaur> instead of redrawing everything after each action in the list, it does one redraw at the end
2022-04-28 13:48:41 <Ether[m]> And is a there chance for it cause instability?
2022-04-28 13:48:57 <geekosaur> there shouldn't be
2022-04-28 13:49:26 <Ether[m]> geekosaur: Ohh, is it should be more stable?
2022-04-28 13:50:21 <geekosaur> should be just as stable, just faster because it doesn't force a redraw between each step of the traversal
2022-04-28 14:00:21 <geekosaur> mm, not just redraws even. it'll also delay the logHook run until the end, which is good if you have ewmh because that does a lot of updates that only really need to be done once in this case
2022-04-28 14:01:53 <abastro[m]> What is ewmh?
2022-04-28 14:02:20 <geekosaur> https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/latest
2022-04-28 14:02:45 <abastro[m]> Oh
2022-04-28 14:02:52 <geekosaur> X11R4 and later came with a specification for how window managers and clients communicate with each other, EWMH extends that protocol
2022-04-28 14:02:58 <abastro[m]> Is it like X extension?
2022-04-28 14:03:10 <geekosaur> but in this case I'm talking about the `ewmh` combinator that implements it for xmonad
2022-04-28 14:03:23 <geekosaur> no, it's not a server extension
2022-04-28 14:04:23 <abastro[m]> Hm I thought X specification also touches the communication protocol
2022-04-28 14:04:28 <geekosaur> it *is* an xmonad extension because by default it only supports the old specification (ICCCM)
2022-04-28 14:05:09 <geekosaur> the communication protocol remains the same. EWMH (and ICCCM) is implemented as specific property atoms set on the root window and client windows
2022-04-28 14:05:50 <geekosaur> and a couple of client messages that can be sent to the root window (which the window manager listens on since it doesn't have a window of its own)
2022-04-28 14:06:31 <geekosaur> so it's not extensions to the protocol, it's using the existing protocol in specific ways
2022-04-28 14:08:14 <geekosaur> properties and client messages beginning with "WM_" are part of ICCCM; those starting with "_NET_WM_" belong to EWMH
2022-04-28 14:16:48 <geekosaur> and the server is only a passive conduit; this is all about communication between a WM and other GUI programs
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2022-04-28 14:51:39 <valarMorghulis[m> Does anyome know of a way to implement windows snapping (window goes to fullscreen if u drag it with mouse to the top of the screen) in xmonad?
2022-04-28 14:58:52 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Actions-FloatSnap.html this doesn't quite do what you want but you could probably implement something based on it
2022-04-28 15:03:57 <valarMorghulis[m> <geekosaur> "https://hackage.haskell.org/..." <- I tried it and customer implement that, it snaps a window on some another window
2022-04-28 15:04:12 <valarMorghulis[m> * couldn't implement
2022-04-28 15:04:23 <geekosaur> right, as I said, you could start from its code to write what you want

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