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2022-04-29 18:27:04 <arjun> hi
2022-04-29 18:27:11 <arjun> i seem to have 9 workspaces
2022-04-29 18:27:17 liskin[m] joins (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768)
2022-04-29 18:27:28 <arjun> how do i make it more like i3 where i only have the workspaces i use
2022-04-29 18:27:38 <arjun> only 1-4 say, if i use just 4 etc
2022-04-29 18:27:52 <arjun> dynamic workspaces doesn't seem to be the thing i want
2022-04-29 18:29:10 <geekosaur> xmonad requires at least as many workspaces as screens, and otherwise creates a fixed set whne it starts based on the `workspaces` entry in the config
2022-04-29 18:29:25 <geekosaur> we don't really supporti3-style dynamic workspaces
2022-04-29 18:30:28 <arjun> so my way out is, as many ws as screen then dynamic workspaces add as required ?
2022-04-29 18:31:05 <geekosaur> you can do that. it just won't auto-remove them as they empty
2022-04-29 18:31:20 <arjun> geekosaur, i see. thanks
2022-04-29 18:31:41 <Solid> can probably hack together a logHook for that
2022-04-29 18:31:46 <geekosaur> hypothetically a logHook might look for and remove empties
2022-04-29 18:31:49 <geekosaur> yeh
2022-04-29 18:36:11 <arjun> just curios, is there work still going on Xmonad, given that wayland is being pushed as the future
2022-04-29 18:36:45 <arjun> or is in will just fix bugs and maintenance mode now?
2022-04-29 18:36:55 <geekosaur> work still going on. wayland is being pushed, but is still not ready for prime time
2022-04-29 18:37:08 <geekosaur> see the discussion in #haskell for an example :)
2022-04-29 18:37:17 <arjun> geekosaur, fractional scaling is a mess on wayland
2022-04-29 18:37:27 <arjun> works with hacks on X pretty good
2022-04-29 18:38:19 <geekosaur> anyway X11 will be around until at least 2030 due to contractual requirements on Red Hat
2022-04-29 18:38:44 <geekosaur> a Wayland based xmonad *is* a future goal, but it'll take a lot of work
2022-04-29 18:39:08 <geekosaur> there is already a waymonad but it's buggy; I think sway is currently recommended for tiling on wayland
2022-04-29 18:39:21 <arjun> guess we'll wait for wayland to sort it's shit out first
2022-04-29 18:39:40 <arjun> also, previous config interop like i3 and sway would be killer
2022-04-29 18:40:16 <geekosaur> I like the *idea* of wayland — X11 really is past its sell-by date — but wayland really isn't there yet
2022-04-29 18:41:56 <arjun> give us X69
2022-04-29 18:42:01 <geekosaur> the multiple monitor hack to avoid the limitations of X11's Screen is atrocious
2022-04-29 18:42:35 <geekosaur> and makes it nearly impossible to support things like different scaling on different monitors
2022-04-29 18:43:11 <arjun> windows gets this so right
2022-04-29 18:43:16 <arjun> its not even funny
2022-04-29 18:43:33 <geekosaur> and that's completely ignoring things like its 1980s "security model"
2022-04-29 18:43:50 <arjun> different DPI monitors with different scaling 150% 125% on another works just flawless
2022-04-29 18:44:00 <arjun> macos sucks too
2022-04-29 19:05:43 <arjun> also, i can't seem to restart my xmonad with Mod-q
2022-04-29 19:05:54 <arjun> was the keybinding changed ?
2022-04-29 19:06:13 <arjun> or do i have a bonked install?
2022-04-29 19:07:33 <geekosaur> it should be mod-q still
2022-04-29 19:08:20 <arjun> geekosaur, i re-install ?
2022-04-29 19:08:41 <geekosaur> what's your config look like?
2022-04-29 19:08:47 <arjun> xmonad --recompile && xmonad --restart work fine from the terminal
2022-04-29 19:08:56 <arjun> geekosaur, just the basics, nothing too crazy
2022-04-29 19:09:23 <geekosaur> also if you don't have xmessage you may be missing a complaint about xmonad not being able to find itself on $PATH, because terminals have a different $PATH from xmonad on most systems unless you used startx
2022-04-29 19:09:45 <geekosaur> (display managers set PATH to /bin:/usr/bin and do not consult your .profile or etc.)
2022-04-29 19:10:03 <arjun> it's here if you wanna have a look in its entirety
2022-04-29 19:10:04 <arjun> https://pastebin.com/sRsnUJ8M
2022-04-29 19:10:20 <arjun> i symlinked it to /usr/local/bin/xmonad
2022-04-29 19:10:42 <arjun> then use that from an xsessions file for lightdm login
2022-04-29 19:10:55 <arjun> .cabal/bin/xmonad -> /usr/local/bin/xmonad
2022-04-29 19:11:12 <arjun> ** /home/myusername/.cabal/bin/xmonad
2022-04-29 19:11:35 <geekosaur> config looks okay
2022-04-29 19:11:57 <geekosaur> lightdm still won't look in /usr/local/bin when xmonad wants to rerun itself
2022-04-29 19:12:05 <arjun> maybe i link it to /bin or /usr/bin and see ?
2022-04-29 19:12:37 <geekosaur> if you're using a ~/.xsession then have it `source $HOME/.profile` (or .bash_profile or whatever you have)
2022-04-29 19:13:56 <arjun> i'm using /usr/share/xsessions/xmonad.desktop
2022-04-29 19:14:07 <arjun> its supposed to just run xmonad
2022-04-29 19:14:20 <arjun> which i reckoned it'd get from the symlink
2022-04-29 19:14:46 <arjun> let me put it in /usr/bin and logout and see
2022-04-29 19:14:48 <arjun> brb
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2022-04-29 19:18:10 <arjun> nah, didn't work
2022-04-29 19:18:22 <arjun> uses /usr/bin/xmonad now tho
2022-04-29 19:18:59 <arjun> changed that in the xmonad.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/xmonad.desktop
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2022-04-29 19:22:47 <geekosaur> hrm
2022-04-29 19:33:40 twiclo1 parts (~twiclo@2604:7b80:2000:1069:52fc:cedd:fbeb:10c) (WeeChat 3.4)
2022-04-29 19:41:01 arjun joins (~arjun@user/arjun)
2022-04-29 19:41:22 <arjun> tried with a new config creating just 1 line
2022-04-29 19:41:45 <arjun> still wont restart with M-q
2022-04-29 19:42:02 <arjun> its not the config file, something is bonked with my binary install or paths
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2022-04-29 19:49:12 <arjun> geekosaur, solved it
2022-04-29 19:50:13 <arjun> moved this from .zshrc to .profile
2022-04-29 19:50:14 <arjun> [ -f "/home/arjun/.ghcup/env" ] && source "/home/arjun/.ghcup/env" # ghcup-env
2022-04-29 19:50:27 <geekosaur> right, ghcup was doing that for a while
2022-04-29 19:50:41 <arjun> ghc probably wansn't in lightdm's path i'd guess
2022-04-29 19:50:56 <arjun> guess it's still doing it
2022-04-29 19:51:02 <geekosaur> supposedly if you reinstall it it will fix it itself, but I keephearing that recent versions are doing it again
2022-04-29 19:51:06 <arjun> this is probably a 10 day old install
2022-04-29 19:51:09 <geekosaur> that might be a question for maerwald
2022-04-29 19:51:37 <arjun> .profile wont work for wayland people maybe ?
2022-04-29 19:52:30 <geekosaur> should work for anyone, I think. sticking it in the file read by every shell breaks environment and profile managers among other things
2022-04-29 19:52:59 <arjun> gdm on wayland doesn't read .profile

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