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2022-04-29 10:26:57 <[Leary]> The only reason sendMessages would fail is if the WindowNavigation implementation doesn't report the need to refresh in its message handling, and tries to handle the changes itself ...
2022-04-29 10:27:29 <[Leary]> Which is kinda gross, but it can't be blamed since sendMessage didn't always have its current implementation.
2022-04-29 10:27:30 <abastro[m]> Ether: It does seem to perform all of them
2022-04-29 10:28:25 <abastro[m]> Leary, that makes sense
2022-04-29 10:28:29 <[Leary]> The module could perhaps do with a looking over. Though personally I'm not sure what the point of it is when we have Navigation2D.
2022-04-29 10:29:35 <Ether[m]> [Leary]: I am aware
2022-04-29 10:30:02 <Ether[m]> But the problem is it doesn't know your recent windows
2022-04-29 10:30:40 <Ether[m]> I used to use it. But then i started being bothered by its unatural feeling.
2022-04-29 10:31:28 <abastro> It doesn't know your recent windows?
2022-04-29 10:32:46 <Ether[m]> abastro: No it doesn't
2022-04-29 10:33:01 <abastro> How does it work?
2022-04-29 10:33:10 <Ether[m]> abastro: Strategy
2022-04-29 10:33:38 <Ether[m]> Like W.focus up and W.focus down
2022-04-29 10:34:38 <Ether[m]> Meaning it can either go to top left window on the left command or bottom left.
2022-04-29 10:36:49 <Ether[m]> Its hard to explain in words. Imagine; master stack, with master on the right with 3 windows. On the left command it has to reset and follow the strategy. "SideNavigation" or "CenterNavigation"
2022-04-29 10:37:07 <abastro> Yea I see that now
2022-04-29 10:37:18 <Ether[m]> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Actions-Navigation2D.html
2022-04-29 10:37:22 <Ether[m]> PS: sub tabbing is also horrid
2022-04-29 10:37:48 <abastro> Does the other one (X.A.WindowNavigation) recall the previously focused window?
2022-04-29 10:37:52 <abastro> How does that one work?
2022-04-29 10:38:01 <Ether[m]> Yes
2022-04-29 10:38:14 <Ether[m]> Thank God it does
2022-04-29 10:38:53 <Ether[m]> And sub tab works great too. But the problem starts when you swap master and stack
2022-04-29 10:39:04 <Ether[m]> It becomes confused
2022-04-29 10:41:05 <Ether[m]> The default is basically dwm default, Navigation 2d id basically Awesome wm like, Window Navigation is like Bspwm with swaping issues. And if you don't use insert Position Below Newer its useless.
2022-04-29 10:41:44 <abastro> I see, interesting
2022-04-29 10:42:26 <Ether[m]> I could go on a 20 min rant on how there is dynamic wm with "proper Directional Focus and swapping"
2022-04-29 10:43:01 <Ether[m]> * I could go on a 20 min rant on how there isnt a dynamic wm with "proper Directional Focus and swapping"
2022-04-29 10:43:38 <abastro> <del>Implement one yourself!</del> <-- this would be hard yea
2022-04-29 10:43:58 <Ether[m]> Ether[m]: Which really at the end of the day saves you hours of time
2022-04-29 10:44:35 <Ether[m]> abastro: Trying.. but i don't really know Good Haskell, YET.
2022-04-29 10:45:15 <Ether[m]> Does matrix support Markup?
2022-04-29 10:46:07 <abastro> Yea, it somewhat does
2022-04-29 10:46:16 <Ether[m]> <pre>print(" I love python")</pre>
2022-04-29 10:46:28 <abastro> Okay, but that one doesn't work
2022-04-29 10:46:46 <Ether[m]> s/pre/code/, s/pre/code/
2022-04-29 10:46:53 <Ether[m]> How do you write code?
2022-04-29 10:47:07 <abastro> I guess something like this
2022-04-29 10:47:11 <abastro> `insert code here`
2022-04-29 10:47:24 <Ether[m]> ''' python
2022-04-29 10:47:24 <Ether[m]> Echo "hvc"
2022-04-29 10:47:24 <Ether[m]> '''
2022-04-29 10:47:31 <Ether[m]> * '
2022-04-29 10:47:32 <Ether[m]> Echo "hvc"
2022-04-29 10:47:32 <Ether[m]> '
2022-04-29 10:47:47 <Ether[m]> * 'Echo "hvc'
2022-04-29 10:47:56 <Ether[m]> * 'Echo hvc'
2022-04-29 10:48:03 <Ether[m]> Nope
2022-04-29 10:48:13 <abastro[m]> Eh, it is '`'
2022-04-29 10:48:16 <abastro[m]> Not ', but `
2022-04-29 10:49:14 <Ether[m]> `print ("hello world")`
2022-04-29 10:49:23 <Ether[m]> * `print ("hello world")`
2022-04-29 10:49:35 <Ether[m]> s/`/'/
2022-04-29 10:49:36 <Ether[m]> Agggh
2022-04-29 10:50:05 <Ether[m]> * `print ("hello world")`
2022-04-29 10:50:34 <Ether[m]> s/`/<B>/, s/`/</B>/
2022-04-29 10:50:46 <Ether[m]> s/`/<b>/, s/`/</b>/
2022-04-29 10:51:00 <Ether[m]> s/`/<i>/, s/`/</i>/
2022-04-29 10:51:28 <Ether[m]> `'`
2022-04-29 10:51:32 <abastro[m]> Perhaps one calls it 'apostrophe' or something
2022-04-29 10:51:55 <abastro[m]> it should work like this: `hmm`
2022-04-29 10:51:55 <abastro[m]> Done by `hmm`
2022-04-29 10:51:58 <Ether[m]> abastro[m]: Why does it not work here?
2022-04-29 10:52:10 <abastro[m]> Where are you?
2022-04-29 10:52:27 <Ether[m]> 'Hi'
2022-04-29 10:52:27 <abastro[m]> Which client?
2022-04-29 10:52:32 <Ether[m]> Matrix
2022-04-29 10:52:58 <Ether[m]> `is this the way?`
2022-04-29 10:53:58 <Ether[m]> 'Apostrophe doesn't work'
2022-04-29 10:54:13 <Ether[m]> Sad life :(
2022-04-29 10:54:21 <abastro> I mean, which client of matrix?
2022-04-29 10:54:28 <abastro> I am currently using Element for matrix
2022-04-29 10:54:43 <abastro> (And well, sometimes commenting via irc as well like this)
2022-04-29 10:54:49 <lyiriyah[m]> <Ether[m]> "Does matrix support Markup?" <- You use \`backticks\`
2022-04-29 10:55:19 <lyiriyah[m]> Or ``` for a codeblock
2022-04-29 10:57:06 <abastro[m]> Oh right, backticks
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2022-04-29 15:30:45 <junk> hi everyone
2022-04-29 15:31:17 <geekosaur> hi
2022-04-29 15:31:59 <junk> ey
2022-04-29 15:32:05 <junk> I have a question
2022-04-29 15:32:19 <junk> which status bar do you use with xmonad?
2022-04-29 15:33:31 <geekosaur> I run xmonad under MATE so I use mate-panel with xmonad-log-applet
2022-04-29 15:33:42 <geekosaur> most people use xmobar, some use polybar
2022-04-29 15:33:58 <geekosaur> taffybar's also somewhat popular
2022-04-29 15:34:13 <junk> i use xmonbar but is driving me mad
2022-04-29 15:34:35 <junk> is very complex to have multiple instances of it on several monitors
2022-04-29 15:34:55 <geekosaur> it's easier in 0.17
2022-04-29 15:35:43 <geekosaur> we redesigned the statusbar stuff. take a spin through the updated tutorial (https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html)
2022-04-29 15:36:50 <junk> thank you
2022-04-29 15:36:57 <junk> Im gonna check it

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