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2021-08-17 02:09:54 <fernand> Hi everyone. I'm not able to download Haskell 8.2.2 for MacOS. The Link is returning 404 not found https://www.haskell.org/platform/download/8.2.2/Haskell%20Platform%208.2.2%20Full%2064bit-signed.pkg Is there a mirror somewhere else?
2021-08-17 02:11:25 <Axman6> why do you want such an ancient GHC version?
2021-08-17 02:12:17 <fernand> Axman6 for studying purposes
2021-08-17 02:12:19 <Axman6> the haskell platform is no longer the recommended way to get set up, as https://www.haskell.org/platform/ suggests
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2021-08-17 02:14:53 <fernand> I see. Thanks
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2021-08-17 02:15:18 <Axman6> fernand: do you specifically need an old GHC? There is a very good chance it will not run on newer macOS versions, Apple have a habbit of breaking things in the build tools that cause old compiters to stop working
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2021-08-17 02:17:33 <Axman6> just for reference, GHC 8.2.2 was released 2017-11-21
2021-08-17 02:19:06 <sm> a quick test with stack (`stack setup ghc-8.2.2; stack --resolver ghc-8.2.2 exec -- ghc --version`) looks alright
2021-08-17 02:19:58 <Axman6> on the latest macOS? Ususally the problems arise when trying to actually compile things
2021-08-17 02:21:20 <monochrom> To be more sure, you need to try to compile a file that uses CPP.
2021-08-17 02:21:22 <fernand> I am following an old book and they use this version for their code examples. Just wanted to avoid debugging time while learning.
2021-08-17 02:21:46 <Axman6> Which book? Any introductory book should hopefully be ok with newer GHCs
2021-08-17 02:21:50 <sm> on latest mac software and hardware, `stack --resolver lts-11.22 build` in `shelltestrunner` works (about 30 deps)
2021-08-17 02:21:55 <monochrom> That's reasoning. But it cuts both ways.
2021-08-17 02:21:57 <sm> this may be more than enough for fernand
2021-08-17 02:21:58 <monochrom> err
2021-08-17 02:22:03 <monochrom> That's reasonable. But it cuts both ways.
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2021-08-17 02:23:05 <monochrom> debugging old compiler that doesn't work on new system vs debugging old textbook that doesn't work on new compiler >:)
2021-08-17 02:23:40 <fernand> Thanks for all the suggestions. I guess I'll try the newer ghc and see how it goes.
2021-08-17 02:23:47 <monochrom> I would say flip a coin. Later, if something goes wrong, blame the coin.
2021-08-17 02:23:58 <sm> and `stack --resolver lts-11.22 exec -- bash` gets you a nice ghc 8.2.2 in $PATH
2021-08-17 02:24:35 <Axman6> fernand: if you install ghcup, you'll be able to install and switch between a few different GHCs very easily using `ghcup tui`
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2021-08-17 02:26:33 <monochrom> To a large extent, we in this channel has enough collective memory about code migration to new compilers and standard libraries, so that if you encounter code that doesn't compile and you suspect it's an incompatibility, just give us a URL to a paste, we can quickly identify the fix.
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2021-08-17 02:28:11 <fernand> Thank you Axman6, sm and monochrom !
2021-08-17 02:28:29 <Axman6> Stick around and ask lots of questions
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2021-08-17 03:21:52 <Cajun> is hoogle down? 3: (https://hoogle.haskell.org/) is giving me a 502 bad gateway
2021-08-17 03:23:21 <sm> yup
2021-08-17 03:24:03 <sm> there's another one at https://www.stackage.org
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