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2021-08-17 13:37:24 <__monty__> That's pretty cool. The second bullet I figured, but the first one is novel.
2021-08-17 13:38:11 <__monty__> Still SMT is a lot less general a method. So really, it depends on what you're interested in.
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2021-08-17 13:40:55 <kuribas> well, a lot of what is tedious in proving programs correct can be solved with SMT.
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2021-08-17 13:44:07 <__monty__> Sure, model checking is super useful and practical.
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2021-08-17 13:59:07 <merijn> __monty__: Countable infinity is still infinite
2021-08-17 13:59:35 <merijn> And even in a constructive setting you have at least countable infinity
2021-08-17 13:59:50 <__monty__> merijn: Do note the "even less" though. All this proof assistant stuff is from way back when for me.
2021-08-17 14:00:15 <merijn> __monty__: I'd think even in a constructive setting you'll quickly hit countable infinity
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2021-08-17 14:01:02 <__monty__> That's what I suspect. But you'll never catch me speaking confidently about math stuffs.
2021-08-17 14:01:30 <sshine_> does megaparsec not have 'brackets', 'braces' and 'parens'?
2021-08-17 14:02:37 <merijn> sshine_: You want parsers
2021-08-17 14:02:39 <__monty__> @hoogle Control.Applicative.Combinators.between
2021-08-17 14:02:39 <lambdabot> Control.Applicative.Combinators between :: Applicative m => m open -> m close -> m a -> m a
2021-08-17 14:02:41 <merijn> (the package)
2021-08-17 14:02:51 <merijn> or the other one
2021-08-17 14:02:53 <__monty__> I think the package is parser-combinators?
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2021-08-17 14:02:57 <merijn> ah, yeah
2021-08-17 14:03:23 <merijn> Should be re-exported from megaparsec, but they didn't explicitly re-export, so the docs don't show up
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2021-08-17 14:05:00 <__monty__> I was hoping hoogle would list the package tbh. That's the only reason I qualified.
2021-08-17 14:05:14 <tomsmeding> hoogle never lists package names except in the web interface
2021-08-17 14:05:17 <tomsmeding> this annoys me every single time
2021-08-17 14:05:30 <sshine_> ah, that's why. and yes, I did look in parser-combinators by hitting 's' in hackage.
2021-08-17 14:05:31 <tomsmeding> what use is searching for a name in a global list of packages if the search result doesn't show the package name
2021-08-17 14:06:03 <tomsmeding> luckily there is 'hoogle server' :p
2021-08-17 14:06:22 <__monty__> Yeah, it's suboptimal. The other unfortunate part is it only searches stackage : /
2021-08-17 14:06:23 <sshine_> the only reference I find is in megaparsec in this comment: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/megaparsec-9.1.0/docs/Text-Megaparsec-Char-Lexer.html#v:symbol
2021-08-17 14:07:14 <__monty__> Tbf that reference does show you exactly what you want though?
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2021-08-17 14:08:32 <sshine_> __monty__, I'd like to know where to import them from. I don't see that anywhere?
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2021-08-17 14:09:04 <sshine_> I think maybe they're not defined because megaparsec tries to be agnostic about parsing whitespace.
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2021-08-17 14:10:15 <__monty__> You mean the specific ones or "between"? Because yeah, only the latter is defined.
2021-08-17 14:10:23 <sshine_> yes, the specific ones.
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