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2020-10-29 19:56:05 <maerwald> also, GUIs are a mess in neovim
2020-10-29 19:56:19 → jakob_ joins (~textual@p200300f49f1622004116af098f243cdf.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
2020-10-29 19:56:40 <maerwald> too many, but none complete
2020-10-29 19:56:46 <maerwald> agile
2020-10-29 19:56:48 <dolio> Vim comes with Haskell highlighting.
2020-10-29 19:56:54 <dolio> As does neovim, I think.
2020-10-29 19:57:11 <ibloom> Is there a way to go between the two types of vectors at zero expense?
2020-10-29 19:57:22 <davean> ibloom: what two types?
2020-10-29 19:57:49 <koz_> ibloom: Also, what are you trying to do that requires this?
2020-10-29 19:58:19 → kritzefitz joins (~kritzefit@212.86.56.80)
2020-10-29 19:58:23 <ibloom> I have regular vectors that I'm freezing from Data.Vector.Mutable and Data.Vector.Storable that come from JuicyPixels
2020-10-29 19:58:27 <maerwald> avdb: also, Twinside/vim-hoogle is useful
2020-10-29 19:59:40 <koz_> Is there a reason you can't just work with Storable all the time?
2020-10-29 19:59:46 <koz_> Storable has mutable versions too.
2020-10-29 20:00:06 <maerwald> I also use luochen1990/rainbow for haskell. First installed it for clojure some time ago, but it's nice here too
2020-10-29 20:00:11 <avdb> maerwald: I'm not there yet, I still have a hard time understanding Hoogle but still not as bad as cppreference.
2020-10-29 20:00:44 <ibloom> Yeah the mutable version of storable is implemented very differently... perhaps I'm missing something.
2020-10-29 20:01:36 <davean> Ok, vectors from the 'vector' package, thats a good place to start.
2020-10-29 20:02:09 <koz_> ibloom: What do you mean?
2020-10-29 20:02:13 <davean> ibloom: what do you mean "implimented very differently"?
2020-10-29 20:02:19 <koz_> It's the same as mutable vectors for any other variety basically.
2020-10-29 20:02:25 <maerwald> avdb: https://tinyurl.com/yxhxn7m3 my plugin config
2020-10-29 20:03:12 <ibloom> davean: Data.Vector.Mutable is based on read and write for example. Maybe I need to read more.
2020-10-29 20:03:26 <koz_> ibloom: What do you mean by 'read more'?
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2020-10-29 20:03:38 <ibloom> I mean I need to read more of the docs.
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2020-10-29 20:03:58 <koz_> ibloom: Are you unclear how to move between mutable and immutable vectors, perhaps?
2020-10-29 20:03:59 <davean> ibloom: thats not the mutable storable, but if you can't read and write its not mutable - thats what being mutable is
2020-10-29 20:04:41 <davean> ibloom: if you don
2020-10-29 20:04:46 <dolio> Well, the write part.
2020-10-29 20:04:47 <davean> t want read and write you don't want mutable vectors
2020-10-29 20:05:02 <davean> dolio: well no, read because mutable ones have a semantic difference in that they're ordered
2020-10-29 20:05:42 <ibloom> No no, all of that code is written already, I just have images I'm generating by writing to mutable vectors and others that I'm loading from JuicyPixels and the only way I can find to combine them was to go to and from a list.
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2020-10-29 20:06:22 <davean> freeze?
2020-10-29 20:07:02 <ibloom> If I freeze from Data.Vector.Mutable MVector I get a Data.Vector vector. I need a Data.Vector.Storable vector.
2020-10-29 20:07:42 <davean> Right so use the storable version ...
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2020-10-29 20:08:07 <davean> If you want storable, use storable?
2020-10-29 20:08:41 <ibloom> Right, that means I need to rewrite all my mutable code, because the libraries are actually very different as far as I can tell.
2020-10-29 20:08:46 <davean> You're code doesn't have to care which it is, use Data.Vector.Generic(.Mutable)
2020-10-29 20:08:51 <davean> no, it doesn't
2020-10-29 20:09:16 <koz_> ibloom: Not really, no. The APIs of all the mutable vector types are almost exact matches.
2020-10-29 20:09:20 <davean> I'm so confused how you're not hearing what is being said
2020-10-29 20:09:42 <koz_> The only difference is that your data has to be Storable to be put in a mutable Storable vector. Is that the issue here?
2020-10-29 20:10:04 × thir quits (~thir@p200300f27f0b7e004c18ab60065ea01b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2020-10-29 20:10:11 <ibloom> I think I wasn't using the Generic version. Instead I've got an old library.
2020-10-29 20:10:24 <davean> old? How old are we talking ... thats not new
2020-10-29 20:10:43 <geekosaur> pretty sure they've always had nearly identical APIs
2020-10-29 20:10:50 × fandi__ quits (~fandi@118.97.77.114) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2020-10-29 20:11:14 <geekosaur> unless we're talking some JuicyPixels thing
2020-10-29 20:11:36 <davean> geekosaur: Data.Vector.Generic.* got added in 2009
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2020-10-29 20:11:56 <ibloom> I've been importing Data.Vector.Mutable instead of Data.Vector.Generic.Mutable
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2020-10-29 20:12:19 <ibloom> I'll try that and let you know how it goes.
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2020-10-29 20:14:48 <ibloom> I see , it looks like I'm actually using STVectors. Sorry, I've been wiring up some old code I hadn't touched in a while.
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2020-10-29 20:15:56 <koz_> STVector is just a mutable vector specialized to ST.
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2020-10-29 20:19:52 <scasc> Just a quick question:
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2020-10-29 20:20:22 dminuoso patiently waits for the question
2020-10-29 20:20:34 dminuoso scribbles down potential answers
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2020-10-29 20:20:45 dminuoso readies the ScopedTypeVariable answer
2020-10-29 20:20:46 <scasc> I seem to remember that some recent GHC dropped 32-bit architecture (i386) support, and only supports x86_64 now
2020-10-29 20:21:02 <scasc> is that right, or do I misremember?
2020-10-29 20:21:21 <maerwald> I don't remember that
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2020-10-29 20:22:12 <geekosaur> there was discussion of that for windows, I think?
2020-10-29 20:22:12 <maerwald> even 9.0.1-alpha1 has 32bit
2020-10-29 20:22:13 <dminuoso> https://www.haskell.org/ghc/download_ghc_8_10_1.html#linux_i386
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2020-10-29 20:22:21 <dminuoso> scasc: We ship i386 builds.
2020-10-29 20:22:41 hackage zxcvbn-hs 0.3.0.0 - Password strength estimation based on zxcvbn. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/zxcvbn-hs-0.3.0.0 (PeterJones)
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2020-10-29 20:25:41 <scasc> Thanks. I was quite unsure, that's why I wanted to double check.
2020-10-29 20:26:16 <scasc> Didn't find an authoritative source, but of course, I could have checked the distribution packages provided.
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