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2022-04-30 17:21:59 <geekosaur> well, it's not colormap related, if I change it to one of the preallocated values I still get BadValue
2022-04-30 17:24:29 <Ether17> exactly
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2022-04-30 17:44:19 <geekosaur> X_QueryColors, tracking down the opcode. so it's not translating it for some reason, but it's doing so each time instead of once during initialization?
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2022-04-30 17:56:53 <Xioulious> how can i install xmobar without it breaking on a haskell update? i had to install haskell-safe-exceptions and then do a new cabal install of xmobar for it to be able to start again (error was error while loading shared libraries: libHSsafe-exceptions-0.1.7.2-CBfZQcIqSYDK2MNuGjYQ4H-ghc9.0.2.so)
2022-04-30 17:57:25 <geekosaur> let me guess, you're on Arch?
2022-04-30 17:58:12 <Xioulious> yep
2022-04-30 17:58:39 <geekosaur> complain to the Arch maintainers that they yet again updated a dependency without updating the dependents
2022-04-30 17:58:40 <Xioulious> i already install xmonad itself with stack due to that, atleast that has kept that part safe so far
2022-04-30 17:59:12 <geekosaur> they severely complicate haskell packages and this is one of the effects. if they would do them properly this wouldn't happen
2022-04-30 17:59:41 <geekosaur> all I can suggest is avoid Arch packages for Haskell programs until they come to their senses
2022-04-30 18:00:29 <geekosaur> because there's nothing we can do if they update dependencies that way and don't update *all* dependents
2022-04-30 18:00:45 <geekosaur> we disrecommend dynamic installs for exactly that reason
2022-04-30 18:01:10 <Xioulious> and installing xmobar on arch isnt possible with the dynamic installs?
2022-04-30 18:01:47 <Xioulious> i meant without
2022-04-30 18:02:01 <geekosaur> arch doesn't package non-dynamic installs
2022-04-30 18:02:16 <geekosaur> they insist on the dynamic ones, then don't do the work necessary to keep them running
2022-04-30 18:03:09 <geekosaur> and unlike (say) C, upgrading a package changes it in incompatible ways due to cross-module inlining, so shared objects have ABI hashes and using a .so with a different ABI hash will break
2022-04-30 18:03:42 <geekosaur> we *strongly* recommand static installs. this isn't the greatest of solutions but it does mean things don't randomly break
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2022-04-30 18:04:33 <Xioulious> would installing xmobar through the configure script solve that problem, or would it still be using those?
2022-04-30 18:05:36 <geekosaur> installing it yourself will default to -static but you would also have to install its dependencies the same way (that is, not ia arch)
2022-04-30 18:06:07 <geekosaur> on arch your best bet is to use stack to install everything. I'm not fond of stack but it at least works despite arch packages
2022-04-30 18:07:25 <Xioulious> oh so stack would work, couldnt find anything listing that xmobar could be installed that way, ill do that then if i can figure out how to
2022-04-30 18:07:49 <arjun> i'm on arch and i installed xmonad via cabal
2022-04-30 18:08:19 <arjun> then you go to your ~/.config/xmonad/ folder
2022-04-30 18:08:49 <arjun> and cabal install --env . --lib xmonad xmonad-contrib so that xmonad.hs has access to Xmonad libraries
2022-04-30 18:09:09 <arjun> took maybe 5 minutes ?
2022-04-30 18:14:27 <geekosaur> well, I figured out why it's looking up the color again each time (it uses the windpw
2022-04-30 18:14:39 <geekosaur> window's colormap, forgot about that)
2022-04-30 18:14:54 <geekosaur> still doesn't explain why it's failing
2022-04-30 18:19:05 <Xioulious> when doing the stack install, can i just do the stack install --flags="all_extensions" or how do i cause all to be installed with that?
2022-04-30 18:21:34 <geekosaur> I think you have to say something like --flags="xmobar:all_extensions" since stack lets you specify flags per component to be installed
2022-04-30 18:24:02 <Xioulious> hmm, says stack install has no --flags option
2022-04-30 18:24:31 <Xioulious> though i do see [--flag PACKAGE:[-]FLAG]
2022-04-30 18:24:39 <Xioulious> so maybe no equal and stuff
2022-04-30 18:25:12 <geekosaur> yeh, the = is cabal
2022-04-30 18:25:26 <geekosaur> so --flag xmobar:all_extensions
2022-04-30 18:25:30 <Solid> = works just fine for stack, the stray "s" was the issue
2022-04-30 18:25:43 <Xioulious> --flag xmobar:all_extensions that worked, its doing stuff now
2022-04-30 18:37:20 <Xioulious> k thats a success, got it installed through stack now, which shouldnt break with updates i hope
2022-04-30 18:52:19 <geekosaur> bleh. so why is https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/master/src/XMonad/Operations.hs#L261 failing?
2022-04-30 19:00:29 <geekosaur> it's not even suppoosed to generate BadValue
2022-04-30 19:04:40 <Xioulious> after a recompile and restart of xmonad trayer likes to stay above fullscreen stuff like when playing youtube in firefox, this is after i already had the firefox window open, is this something due to a misconfiguration in my xmonad? it doesnt do so if i dont recompile/restart xmonad
2022-04-30 19:05:29 <Xioulious> think i saw an issue about it with some hack mentioned in it, but if its that one then i need to figure out how to implement it
2022-04-30 19:06:08 <geekosaur> the hack is for the opposite problem, trayer gets lowered below an xmobar it's supposed to float above
2022-04-30 19:07:23 <Xioulious> ah, then ill search further
2022-04-30 19:12:36 <Xioulious> it does seem to be this issue: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/211 but it also states a fix that you said is expensive to use, is that the recommended way to go about it still?
2022-04-30 19:21:04 <geekosaur> as far as I can tell, it is. as long as it doesn't get triggered too often (queryTree is downright nasty)
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2022-04-30 19:24:47 <Xioulious> i know basically nothing about haskell yet, only been copying and modifying stuff from other configs to get my stuff working the way i want to.. so no clue when/how often that gets triggered
2022-04-30 19:25:39 <geekosaur> the code in that ticket should only invoke it when a dock-like window is opened
2022-04-30 19:25:44 <geekosaur> so it should be okay
2022-04-30 19:27:03 <Xioulious> and only trayer and xmobar are dock-like windows that im using i think, so it should only be used on boot or restart of xmonad
2022-04-30 19:27:34 <Xioulious> that solves that now then, i might have more bugs to solve but not sure if i managed to fix them or not.. ill have to see
2022-04-30 19:27:46 <Xioulious> ty for always being here and willing to help out though!
2022-04-30 19:40:19 <geekosaur> no problem
2022-04-30 19:57:45 <geekosaur> Ether[m], I've tracked down the call that is failing but still don't know why. I just did a pass through your config again on the off chance that, X being asynchronous, it was actually an error return from a different call, but it seems not
2022-04-30 19:59:06 <geekosaur> and the error it's returning isn't even supposed to be possible according to the protocol docs, but xorg keeps breaking protocols that way so who knows? I can't tell if it was supposed to be BadColor or if they came up with a new way for it to fail in xcb that xlib used to hide
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2022-04-30 21:10:49 <geekosaur> Ether[m], I tossed up a bug report, hopefully one of us will have a chance to bisect your config and try to either reduce it to a smallest reproducer or possibly find some part which reliably triggers it
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2022-05-01 00:48:13 <jakeStateless-Fa> @geekosaur that error just reoccurred, I haven't changed it to the hook version, and I'm away from my desktop now, but .xmonad/xmonad-errors doesn't have anything relevant and .xsession-errors is nonexistant on my system
2022-05-01 00:48:13 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
2022-05-01 00:48:43 <jakeStateless-Fa> I am still not sure why it's erroring like that
2022-05-01 00:50:16 <jakeStateless-Fa> the hypothesis of it being layout related still remains, as I was able to open up apps and gridselect when I was there
2022-05-01 00:56:47 <abastro[m]> Perhaps you could try logging to separate file
2022-05-01 00:56:55 <abastro[m]> So that xmonad stuffs would be reported separately
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