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2022-11-21 01:08:24 <xmonadtrack> New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/781 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/781
2022-11-21 01:32:44 <liskin> Uh wtf. The Firefox bug report is 7 years old, and full screen worked with Firefox for quite a while
2022-11-21 01:33:51 <liskin> So rather than trying to get this new thing perfect, why don't we step back and figure out why suddenly Firefox doesn't work
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2022-11-21 01:46:18 <geekosaur> I was wondering why FF would suddenly start caring when at tis point EWMH is basically DOA
2022-11-21 01:46:25 <geekosaur> *this
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2022-11-21 14:27:54 <kora9> Hmm. I've set Xmessage*font (to the proper font/size) in .Xresources but xmonad error logs still shows up with too small a font size. Running `xmessage test` in a terminal shows the font size I set just fine. I `xrdb -merge .Xresources` before `exec xmonad` in my .xinitrc -- any ideas what the issue is?
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2022-11-21 14:37:06 <geekosaur> xmonad passes an explicit fontset on the command line; see https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/master/src/XMonad/Core.hs#L463
2022-11-21 14:39:06 <kora9> geekosaur: That explains a lot! To modify this behaviour, do I just copy that section into my config and modify it?
2022-11-21 14:39:38 <geekosaur> there is, sadly, no good way to handle this in general; we need to specify a fontset so it gets the right i18n behavior, but then it also fixes the font size
2022-11-21 14:39:59 <geekosaur> this is why newer stuff uses fontconfig instead
2022-11-21 14:40:30 <geekosaur> you would have to copy the whole recompile logic, I think 😞
2022-11-21 14:41:03 <kora9> geekosaur: jeez! This is the first time I've run into a limitation in Xmonad's config I think :) I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later
2022-11-21 14:41:39 <geekosaur> well, it's not a complete loss; you can ignore the xmessage and look in xmonad.errors afterward
2022-11-21 14:42:36 <geekosaur> we should really consider upgrading to a better message display at some point; we used xmessage because when xmonad was written it was the only message program guaranteed to be installed, but these days that's no longer true
2022-11-21 14:43:22 <Solid[m]> liskin: mh, are we sure there _is_ a problem with firefox fullscreen? Maybe they just used that as an example to give their PR more weight
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2022-11-21 14:43:52 <Solid[m]> In https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/771 they talked about needing those changes for an application of theirs, so maybe this PR is similar
2022-11-21 14:45:59 <kora9> geekosaur: Yeah, the issue I'm having with xmessage is that I'm on a high DPI display so I have to use xrandr dpi/scale workarounds to get a proper size, which unfortunately means I need to modify the fonts in the applications instead
2022-11-21 14:46:55 <kora9> If xmonad switched to an application that respected the dpi setting it wouldn't be as much of an issue
2022-11-21 14:49:29 <geekosaur> I personally use a wrapper for zenity, which has its shortcomings but I expect it would respect dpi. https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmessage
2022-11-21 14:50:03 <kora9> geekosaur, thanks! I'll give that a try :)
2022-11-21 14:50:09 <geekosaur> just noticed I could simplify things too, there's an XMONAD_XMESSAGE envar 🙂 but it still has to accept xmessage-style parameters so you can't just set it to zenity
2022-11-21 14:55:47 <kora9> geekosaur: Does that env var accept xmessage -fn for font size?
2022-11-21 14:56:24 <geekosaur> no, it still passes the fontset which overrides the font size
2022-11-21 14:56:39 <kora9> argh :)
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2022-11-21 15:58:58 <kora9> geekosaur: How do you use your xmessage wrapper? Do you replace the system-wide binary with it? I've tried sticking it in my $HOME/.local/bin and setting XMONAD_XMESSAGE="/.local/bin/xmessage" but that didn't work (Sorry, I'm not extremely knowledgable)
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2022-11-21 16:09:56 <geekosaur> I currently stick it somewhere in front of /usr/bin in $PATH, but if you use XMONAD_XMESSAGE you need to (a) make sure the new xmessage is executable (chmod +x) and (b) use a full path to it in XMONAD_XMESSAGE
2022-11-21 16:10:15 <geekosaur> what you have is not a full path, there is probably no /.local on your system
2022-11-21 16:10:46 <geekosaur> /home/kora9/.local/bin/xmessage (or whatever your username is in place of kora9)
2022-11-21 16:29:09 <kora9> geekosaur: Ah, yeah I mistyped on the path. I used "$HOME/.local/bin/xmessage" -- but xmonad is still using regular xmessage for some reason
2022-11-21 16:29:37 <kora9> echo $XMONAD_XMESSAGE returns "/home/kora9/.local/bin/xmessage"
2022-11-21 16:29:57 <kora9> I put it next to my other XMONAD vars which works
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2022-11-21 16:34:22 <geekosaur> hm. it'll do that if it doesn't understand the parameters passed to it, so it doesn't break non-xmonad uses of xmessage, but it should work for that
2022-11-21 16:35:30 <geekosaur> whoops, I was going to do a quick test but it's recompiling everything instead…
2022-11-21 16:35:58 <geekosaur> (my test might not work anyway as I use a build script and cabal, and cabal sends output to the wrong place)
2022-11-21 16:37:09 <kora9> geekosaur: Ah, I'm just intentionally making an error in my xmonad.hs and reloading to test the xmessage error prompt
2022-11-21 16:37:27 <geekosaur> yeh, I did the same
2022-11-21 16:37:44 <geekosaur> but my setup is a lot more complex
2022-11-21 16:39:55 <geekosaur> in particular, I use dbus to log to mate-panel and dbus depends on both conduit and lens so I have half of hackage as dependencies 🙂
2022-11-21 16:44:17 <kora9> geekosaur: Cool, so you use mate-panel instead of the more common panels (xmobar etc)? Got any screenshots?
2022-11-21 16:44:59 <geekosaur> I run xmonad as window manager for MATE, and maintain the support for it
2022-11-21 16:46:14 <geekosaur> https://imgur.com/VhaT5Fz.png
2022-11-21 16:48:00 <kora9> geekosaur: That's pretty neat! Why do you do that? Are there any advantages vs something like xmobar?
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2022-11-21 17:00:19 <geekosaur> I just prefer having a full desktop environment including panel
2022-11-21 17:00:31 <geekosaur> and I'm not particularly fond of xmobar
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2022-11-21 17:01:18 <geekosaur> also my build just finished and my xmessagte fell back to the standard one, so apparently I need to adjust the parameter checking again, sorry 😞

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