Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
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| 2022-11-17 14:44:22 | <liskin> | Solid, [Leary]: these extensions you mention, when do they appear? |
| 2022-11-17 14:45:44 | <liskin> | Solid, [Leary]: Ubuntu 20.04 is on 8.6.5 and is supported till 2025, so that's one argument for dropping just 8.4, but then Ubuntu 22.04 has been out for half a year so we could well skip straight through to 8.8 as that's in Debian stable as well |
| 2022-11-17 14:46:13 | <liskin> | (and I have no idea about other distros but assume these to be both most conservative and also to cover the widest userbase) |
| 2022-11-17 14:46:24 | <liskin> | and when I say conservative I mean unmaintained lol |
| 2022-11-17 14:46:31 | <liskin> | (as in Haskell packaging) |
| 2022-11-17 14:47:13 | <Solid> | liskin: BlockArguments, DerivingVia, and QuantifiedConstraints all appear in 8.6.1 so we're gucci :) |
| 2022-11-17 14:48:15 | <Solid> | (I wouldn't have a problem with dropping 8.6 as well though) |
| 2022-11-17 14:50:05 | <liskin> | yeah it's not like I know what I'm doing either, perhaps none of this matters :-) |
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| 2022-11-17 14:56:55 | <[Leary]> | I'm ambivalent on 8.6 too, but I don't see any real reason to drop it at this point. |
| 2022-11-17 14:57:38 | <[Leary]> | *indifferent |
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| 2022-11-17 15:10:46 | geekosaur | has no preferences |
| 2022-11-17 15:11:22 | <geekosaur> | (well, if you held me to the wall I'd probably prefer people use ghcup and build xmonad from hackage or git, but I know many folks won't do that) |
| 2022-11-17 15:28:37 | <liskin> | me being one of them :-) |
| 2022-11-17 15:29:06 | <liskin> | I was forced to use rustup instead of rustc/cargo from Debian fairly recently, and I didn't love the experience at all |
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| 2022-11-17 15:30:52 | <liskin> | admittedly it would've been less bad if Debian itself just shipped rustup with the proxy hard/sym-links as rustup can be build-time configured to not touch these and not try to update itself and everything would then work almost perfectly, but unfortunately Debian doesn't ship stuff like this and rustup doesn't ship such deb packages either, so the end-user experience is inevitably shut |
| 2022-11-17 15:31:15 | <liskin> | unsurpringly the situation with ghcup isn't any different so … :-/ |
| 2022-11-17 15:31:38 | <liskin> | *shit not shut |
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