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2022-04-25 12:27:58 <geekosaur> has anyone else looked at https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/709 yet?
2022-04-25 12:28:49 <geekosaur> summary: insertPosition requires (and documents) that StackSet actions happen in a specific order so it doesn't misfire; the docks combinator violates this
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2022-04-25 16:08:03 <liskin> geekosaur: I haven't looked at anything as I'm superbusy with other life stuff these days :-(
2022-04-25 16:08:19 <geekosaur> :(
2022-04-25 16:08:19 <liskin> but I'm keeping these things as unread in my inbox, if that helps :-)
2022-04-25 16:10:03 <geekosaur> kinda like I kept your XS PRs in my inbox for a ridiculously long time before I got around to poking at them? :)
2022-04-25 16:19:17 <liskin> possibly, not sure what your reasons were
2022-04-25 16:19:48 <liskin> anyway, I'm starting a job this week, so things are getting stable, but not any less busier, so I can't really promise anything
2022-04-25 16:25:10 <geekosaur> just that they came in at a bad time and then got buried
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2022-04-25 18:23:37 <Solid> geekosaur: is it really the docks combinator itself that's causing this, or could it also manifest with just a different ordering of the relevant hooks?
2022-04-25 18:24:48 <Solid> I feel like the fix would be to make insertPosition properly commutative (if that's even possible...); there may be other hooks it's also incompatible with, given some weird ordering
2022-04-25 18:26:47 <geekosaur> the documentation for it makes it clear what ordering to use, and if you consider what it does you really do need to order it properly relative to things like doShift or doIgnore
2022-04-25 18:27:16 <geekosaur> it has code to deal with this, but that code is useless if the shift or ignore, etc. happens *after* the insertPosition
2022-04-25 18:28:07 <geekosaur> there is no way for it to retroactively clean up the Stack if you do something after it takes effect
2022-04-25 18:28:54 <Solid> oh I see
2022-04-25 18:29:35 <geekosaur> this may argue for it being a combinator so it can always insert itself leftmost (remember, composition associates to the right), but docks would still have to insert itself rightmost to not comflict
2022-04-25 18:30:17 <Solid> mh, I wonder if that would break anything
2022-04-25 18:31:19 <geekosaur> I doubt it since after doIgnore you can't do anything anyway and arguably doing something before docks is buggy behavior
2022-04-25 18:40:13 <Solid> sounds about right
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2022-04-25 19:47:37 <geekosaur> inbox 4. been a while :)
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2022-04-25 22:53:40 <geekosaur> sigh. I feel like I'm going to have to explain the whole situation to this OC person and find out how they want it handled
2022-04-25 22:53:49 <geekosaur> obviously it's not the simple way
2022-04-25 23:00:12 <liskin> that's why most people are wage-slaves (employees): getting paid in any other way is actively discouraged by the law :-/
2022-04-25 23:00:35 <liskin> OC is just trying to follow the rules I'm afraid
2022-04-25 23:07:53 <liskin> anyway, off to bed, commuting to London tomorrow :-D
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2022-04-26 03:45:43 <Drishal[m]> how do I set all zoom windows to be always floating in xmonad?
2022-04-26 03:46:08 <Drishal[m]> my ManageHook looks like this... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/d2abacd7755bb107664b0df83d7666583c4ad8a4)
2022-04-26 03:46:17 <Drishal[m]> * my ManageHook looks like this... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/ff5de466630dedfb11c58d5ac7d45ab4bf53307e)
2022-04-26 03:46:33 <Drishal[m]> s/```/````/, s/#```/````/
2022-04-26 03:47:58 <Drishal[m]> how do I set all `*zoom*` windows to remain floating ?
2022-04-26 03:47:58 <Drishal[m]> otherwise something always crashes if I launch zoom in tiling mode
2022-04-26 03:48:27 <Drishal[m]> s/windows/meet/, s/to/windowsto/, s///
2022-04-26 03:48:35 <Drishal[m]> * how do I set all `*zoom*` meet windows to remain floating ?
2022-04-26 03:48:35 <Drishal[m]> otherwise something always crashes if I launch zoom in tiling mode
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