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2022-04-24 06:47:47 <abhixec> every time I resume from sleep xmobar seems to be killed anyone know what might be cuasing this?
2022-04-24 06:55:43 <abastro[m]> Did you check the log?
2022-04-24 07:08:19 <abhixec> I don't see any log anywherer
2022-04-24 07:21:30 <abhixec> all i saw for a segmentation fault error
2022-04-24 07:27:27 <abastro[m]> Ohh
2022-04-24 07:27:46 <abhixec> zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) xmobar -x 1 ~/.config/xmonad/xmobarrc
2022-04-24 07:27:48 <abastro[m]> Soo it prob segfaulted..
2022-04-24 07:28:08 <abastro[m]> Perhaps there is core dump somewhere
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2022-04-24 09:48:44 <shaundev> hey
2022-04-24 09:48:54 <geekosaur> hi
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2022-04-24 09:51:25 <abastro[m]> geekosaur: awake now?
2022-04-24 09:52:11 <geekosaur> partially
2022-04-24 09:53:41 abastro joins (~abab9579@192.249.26.196)
2022-04-24 09:54:12 <abastro> oh okay
2022-04-24 09:55:45 <geekosaur> my sister said she'd be picking me up early today, but not when "early" was. as the store opens at 7am local, gotta be ready for that
2022-04-24 09:55:57 <geekosaur> (normally I'd be up at 7:30 local)
2022-04-24 09:57:44 <geekosaur> I have coffee now at least :)
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2022-04-24 09:58:54 <derpyxdhs> hi guys
2022-04-24 09:59:25 <geekosaur> hi
2022-04-24 10:02:37 <derpyxdhs> do the developers have plans to implement a composer in XMonad or is it an unfeasible option?
2022-04-24 10:04:38 <geekosaur> it would be doable but there doesn't seem to be much point to have a compositor built in
2022-04-24 10:05:18 <geekosaur> there are plans to write something for wayland at some point but we'll need to pay someone to do it as none of us has wayland experience;that will necessarily have a compositor
2022-04-24 10:06:00 <liskin> speaking of compositor, funny thing on my new laptop: without a compositor, the panel self-refresh sometimes flickers older frames, but with one it seems okay
2022-04-24 10:06:21 <liskin> (but I only used the compositor for a couple minutes late last night so maybe it is still broken after all)
2022-04-24 10:06:41 <geekosaur> some years ago there was an attempt to bolt compiz onto xmonad; it lasted about a week, as the compiz source was changing too quickly for them to keep up
2022-04-24 10:09:15 Solid is still not using a compositor about half of the time
2022-04-24 10:10:01 <derpyxdhs> geekosaur, thanks for replying! :)
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2022-04-24 10:11:07 geekosaur has been using a compositor since the old xcompmgr days
2022-04-24 10:11:32 <geekosaur> there are certain arguments to be made for separation of concerns
2022-04-24 10:14:42 <geekosaur> of course, you can do fancier things if it's built in… but you'll also be doing a fair amount of surgery on xmonad's core to support those things'
2022-04-24 10:17:09 <geekosaur> https://github.com/squarehimself/XMoniz has been dead since 2010 and is badly bitrotted but might give you some ideas
2022-04-24 10:19:25 <abastro> geekosaur: so you woke up too early
2022-04-24 10:19:30 <geekosaur> yes
2022-04-24 10:19:56 <geekosaur> it happens occasionally, usually if I wake up anytime after 5am local I won't get back to sleep anyway
2022-04-24 10:20:09 <abastro> Noooo
2022-04-24 10:20:32 <abastro> Wait, so xcompmgr is old
2022-04-24 10:20:45 <abastro> I've been using that one because one repo I've seen had that
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2022-04-24 10:21:12 <geekosaur> xcompmgr became compton became picom
2022-04-24 10:21:25 <abastro> Wait, same devs?
2022-04-24 10:21:31 <geekosaur> I'm currently running the first release of picom, which still calls itself compton
2022-04-24 10:21:33 <geekosaur> no, forks
2022-04-24 10:21:40 <abastro> I see
2022-04-24 10:21:48 <abastro> I did not know xcompmgr was that ancient
2022-04-24 10:22:04 <abastro> I should switch to picom then
2022-04-24 10:23:10 derpyxdhs joins (~derpyxdhs@2804:7228:7fff:b40:c02:c35e:69b0:1216)
2022-04-24 10:24:25 <abastro> picom is a fork of compton, which is a fork of xcompmgr-dana, which in turn is a fork of xcompmgr.
2022-04-24 10:24:33 <abastro> Just saw this from ArchWiki
2022-04-24 10:24:38 <abastro> Oh god
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2022-04-24 10:35:13 <MrElendig> also fun: xcompmngr was never ment to be actually used, it was written as a proof of concept
2022-04-24 10:36:51 <geekosaur> well, that's also (mostly) true of lisp :þ
2022-04-24 10:37:12 <geekosaur> (was intended to be used as a notation, not as a language)
2022-04-24 10:37:58 <abastro> XD
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2022-04-24 11:01:48 <geekosaur> mm, next question re compositors is, what purpose would you intend for a built-in compositor? sadly, they left
2022-04-24 11:02:02 <geekosaur> (we already have FadeInactive and FadeWindows)
2022-04-24 11:02:19 <abastro> They left?
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