Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2021-10-03 22:15:45 | <geekosaur> | in my experience, even with a fairly complex xmonad.hs it takes about 2 seconds to compile |
| 2021-10-03 22:16:01 | <TORRENTER[m]> | <geekosaur> "(heck, I tweak things every..." <- Very nice, this backwards compatibility that XMonad has is really handy, especially for lazy people like me lol |
| 2021-10-03 22:16:30 | <geekosaur> | and that's on a slow, low memory laptop |
| 2021-10-03 22:18:02 | <cjb> | my config takes 14s to recompile, but my computer is from the dark ages so probably doesn't matter too much. also I can work around this change by setting XMONAD_CACHE_DIR |
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| 2021-10-03 22:26:24 | <Archanus[m]> | <Ihaveaquestion> "Sorry for my poor english..." <- How small are you shrinking the windows? I just got on my pc and I'm able to shrink wi flows down to a 1x1 pixel square without any problems |
| 2021-10-03 22:27:31 | <geekosaur> | it may be a specific application that crashes if the windows get too small |
| 2021-10-03 22:28:19 | <geekosaur> | that said, such applications should really set the minimum and maximum window sizes if applicable instead of crashing |
| 2021-10-03 22:28:50 | <geekosaur> | I think we obey those, at least |
| 2021-10-03 22:30:43 | <geekosaur> | I know we look at them because if min, max, and default window size are all set the same, we autofloat at that size |
| 2021-10-03 22:31:22 | <Archanus[m]> | geekosaur: O |
| 2021-10-03 22:33:04 | <Archanus[m]> | geekosaur: I'm not entirely sure what theyre talking about, I', assuming manual resizing the window, but I'm unable to replicate the problem |
| 2021-10-03 22:33:46 | <geekosaur> | yeh, that's how I read it as well |
| 2021-10-03 22:39:12 | <geekosaur> | the question may be whether we properly obey WM_NORNMAL_HINTS |
| 2021-10-03 22:39:48 | <geekosaur> | although I note ICCCM says the client has to accept the size the wm gives it, the size hints are only hints |
| 2021-10-03 22:39:56 | <geekosaur> | so this may be a buggy client |
| 2021-10-03 22:40:09 | <geekosaur> | (tiling window managers often provoke such bugs) |
| 2021-10-03 22:41:35 | <geekosaur> | in any case, forcing a minimum in resize requires copying and reimplementing the resize code |
| 2021-10-03 22:42:01 | <geekosaur> | there's no easy way to hook into it because it's spread over multiple events |
| 2021-10-03 22:42:44 | <geekosaur> | in any case, they seem to have left |
| 2021-10-03 22:43:15 | <Archanus[m]> | oh, I missed that, guess I didn't answer them fast enough |
| 2021-10-03 22:44:07 | <Archanus[m]> | so, since I got you here, looking back on the previous conversation a bit, what would be the correct way of having xmonad.hs restart xmobar automatically? |
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| 2021-10-03 22:59:43 | <geekosaur> | probably to use the new StatusBar stuff since it does what people tend to expect |
| 2021-10-03 23:00:01 | <geekosaur> | (it's in git xmonad/xmonad-contrib) |
| 2021-10-03 23:00:25 | <geekosaur> | the old way assumed you were feeding it over a pipe so the old one would go away automatically on mod-q when xmonad did |
| 2021-10-03 23:02:28 | <geekosaur> | StatusBar requires you to use its mechanisms for starting bars so it knows what to kill on restart |
| 2021-10-03 23:04:58 | <Archanus[m]> | i' reading through the link now...not making all that much sense yet as I think I'm still running an older version of xmonad |
| 2021-10-03 23:05:14 | <Archanus[m]> | yah, all my xmobars are running through pipes from xmonad |
| 2021-10-03 23:06:43 | <geekosaur> | do they all use StdinReader? |
| 2021-10-03 23:07:05 | <geekosaur> | because without that they won't be reading to notice the EOF when xmonad goes away |
| 2021-10-03 23:07:08 | <Archanus[m]> | i'm not ready to upgrade quite yet I don't think, I ONLY just got my system set up to about 90% of what I want, it's basically useable now except for a few little things I haven't been able to figure out yet |
| 2021-10-03 23:07:17 | <Archanus[m]> | geekosaur: yes |
| 2021-10-03 23:08:06 | <Archanus[m]> | I think so |
| 2021-10-03 23:08:39 | <Archanus[m]> | I'm actually a super noob still, I've learned a lot, but still have a long way to go so please bear with me |
| 2021-10-03 23:11:19 | <geekosaur> | I'm not much of an expert on xmobar, but I do know you need StdinReader both in the Run stuff and in the template or xmobar will ignore it |
| 2021-10-03 23:13:31 | <Archanus[m]> | huh, I didn't know that, let me see if that works or if I jsut broke my system again |
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| 2021-10-03 23:17:18 | <Archanus[m]> | yeah, stdinreader just makes so the bar won't spawn |
| 2021-10-03 23:18:12 | <geekosaur> | hm. can you check the log? (this is usually .xsession-errors but may be in journald / journalctl) |
| 2021-10-03 23:19:16 | <geekosaur> | if you run startx from the console then you'll need to switch back to the text console to see the errors |
| 2021-10-03 23:25:13 | <Archanus[m]> | hmm nothing is popping out at me from journalctl...I'll probably have to fiddle with things a bit to see what changed. it will probably have to be after work though... I can't get into it too deep right now |
| 2021-10-03 23:26:08 | <geekosaur> | you could also try running it from a terminal to see what error messages it spits out |
| 2021-10-03 23:26:11 | <Archanus[m]> | but this seems like the right place to get some support unless I am mistaken? |
| 2021-10-03 23:26:23 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 2021-10-03 23:26:37 | <geekosaur> | just not really from me :( |
| 2021-10-03 23:26:50 | <geekosaur> | maybe someone else will show up who can help more |
| 2021-10-03 23:26:56 | <Archanus[m]> | I have like 3 issues and 2 things which would be nice to figure out how to do |
| 2021-10-03 23:27:31 | <Archanus[m]> | no worries, you've already helped me a lot, thank you |
| 2021-10-03 23:27:52 | <Archanus[m]> | at least in getting me pointed in the right direction of where to look |
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| 2021-10-04 02:11:48 | <mc47[m]> | Archanus how are you starting xmonad? Are you using a login manager? |
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| 2021-10-04 02:32:26 | <Archanus[m]> | <mc47[m]> "Archanus how are you starting..." <- I'll have to check, but pretty sure it sddm |
| 2021-10-04 02:36:23 | <mc47[m]> | check .local/lib/sddm/xsession.log for the logs then, not journactl |
| 2021-10-04 02:36:41 | <mc47[m]> | (or sth similar, I can't access my laptop at the moment) |
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| 2021-10-04 07:35:48 | TORRENTER[m] | uploaded an image: (56KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/LefPyFLrghJcXnKnKliMBlax/Screenshot%20from%202021-10-04%2008-35-31.png > |
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| 2021-10-04 07:35:51 | <TORRENTER[m]> | Yo guys, it seems that the AUR package for xmonad-git has issues with itself, see this screenshot: |
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| 2021-10-04 07:36:09 | <TORRENTER[m]> | I'll just manually git clone it anyway, but still.. |
| 2021-10-04 07:37:11 | <Solid> | wouldn't that better be directed at the person maintaining these packages? |
| 2021-10-04 07:37:21 | <TORRENTER[m]> | yes that's true |
| 2021-10-04 07:37:48 | <TORRENTER[m]> | I'll delete the messages |
| 2021-10-04 07:40:38 | <Solid> | ah don't bother; IRC will still see them anyways :) |
| 2021-10-04 07:55:31 | <TORRENTER[m]> | anyone have some good XMonad wallpapers |
| 2021-10-04 07:55:49 | <TORRENTER[m]> | actually I'll search for them |
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| 2021-10-04 08:37:53 | <Solid> | do share if you find some good ones :) |
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| 2021-10-04 09:13:25 | <TORRENTER[m]> | https://www.opendesktop.org/s/Wallpapers/p/1213294/ |
| 2021-10-04 09:13:29 | <TORRENTER[m]> | Found a good one |
| 2021-10-04 09:14:28 | <TORRENTER[m]> | Flipping heck this phone is slow slow |
| 2021-10-04 09:14:37 | <TORRENTER[m]> | s/slow/so/ |
| 2021-10-04 09:27:25 | <Solid> | I would call this more of a Haskell wp than an xmonad one, but it works I suppose |
| 2021-10-04 09:29:37 | <TORRENTER[m]> | Yeah works I guess |
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