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2022-08-30 17:38:16 <ChaoticMist[m]> Out of curiosity, has there been any thoughts regarding having cachix support? That would reduce my laptop's suffering by a lot :S
2022-08-30 17:39:10 <geekosaur> the closest we get to actual nix support is a contributed set of flakes. someone else would probably have to contribute cachix support
2022-08-30 17:39:32 <geekosaur> none of us use nix
2022-08-30 17:40:20 geekosaur glances at backscroll
2022-08-30 17:41:15 <geekosaur> zim0369[m]1, we don't manage the Arch packages, I couldn't tell you why an Arch build wouldn't find those packages
2022-08-30 17:48:25 ← Zevv parts (~Zevvvvv@185.238.131.12) ()
2022-08-30 18:00:06 <ChaoticMist[m]> How come? Many haskell users do
2022-08-30 18:00:17 <ChaoticMist[m]> Interesting 🤔
2022-08-30 18:02:08 <geekosaur> nix only makes sense to me if you go the whole way and use nixos; nix on top of something else is stupidly wasteful since anything from nix will reinstall something I already have installed
2022-08-30 18:02:58 <geekosaur> maybe I'll try that someday but currently I do not have any spare machines to experiment with and I'm not interested in learning what amounts to a new OS, especially after seeing what nix involves
2022-08-30 18:10:18 <liskin> Hm, can anyone explain this cachix thing? I thought it's something you or nixos use to speed up builds. Not something that projects need to support individually. Did I get it wrong?
2022-08-30 18:10:38 <liskin> (not speed up, avoid, by downloading binaries)
2022-08-30 18:24:22 × benin0 quits (~benin@183.82.205.66) (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat)
2022-08-30 18:46:33 <ChaoticMist[m]> <liskin> "Hm, can anyone explain this..." <- It's simply put pre-compiled binaries available for others to download/use
2022-08-30 18:46:49 <ChaoticMist[m]> https://docs.cachix.org/getting-started
2022-08-30 18:53:36 × geekosaur quits (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Quit: Leaving)
2022-08-30 18:54:03 × xmonadtrack quits (~xmonadtra@xmonad/geekosaur) (Remote host closed the connection)
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2022-08-30 19:39:16 <liskin> ChaoticMist[m]: yeah who exactly puts them there?
2022-08-30 19:39:25 <liskin> surely not everyone, that'd be a security nightmare
2022-08-30 19:41:02 → xmonadtrack joins (~xmonadtra@069-135-003-034.biz.spectrum.com)
2022-08-30 19:41:03 × xmonadtrack quits (~xmonadtra@069-135-003-034.biz.spectrum.com) (Changing host)
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2022-08-30 19:50:28 <ChaoticMist[m]> <liskin> "surely not everyone, that'd be a..." <- The one who has the rights to push to that cachix instance iirc
2022-08-30 19:51:15 <ChaoticMist[m]> Never created one myself, so I am not very familiar with how it is achieved tbh
2022-08-30 19:51:49 <ChaoticMist[m]> But I think you build locally and use `cachix push` to oush binaries
2022-08-30 19:52:05 <geekosaur> It still seems like a problem. Anyone can set up an instance?
2022-08-30 19:52:19 <ChaoticMist[m]> Hyprland has their own instance, do check it out
2022-08-30 19:53:28 <geekosaur> Who verifies the binaries match the source? (Or for that matter who vets the source? I can easily see Kernighan-style attacks (cf. Reflections on Trusting Trust))
2022-08-30 19:54:52 <geekosaur> sorry, Thompson not Kernighan
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