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| 2021-10-07 18:18:37 | <minty> | any of y'all doing alt-tab reliably? I have Actions.GroupNavigation imported with nextMatch Forward (return True) bound to alt+tab, but i'm guessing i need to toggle between nextMatch Forward and nextMatch Backward somehow... |
| 2021-10-07 18:26:36 | <mc47[m]> | Maybe alt+tab and super+tab? |
| 2021-10-07 18:26:54 | <mc47[m]> | I don't have many windows open per workspace so it was never a problem |
| 2021-10-07 18:31:42 | <geekosaur> | I use alt-tab and alt-shift-tab |
| 2021-10-07 18:31:59 | <geekosaur> | I think that's also what the default bindings use |
| 2021-10-07 18:32:14 | <geekosaur> | well, mod in place of alt |
| 2021-10-07 18:32:50 | <geekosaur> | I also have mod-arrows bound for prev/next hidden workspace |
| 2021-10-07 18:35:34 | <minty> | dang, i just think it's more intuitive/faster to have them bound to the same key combo |
| 2021-10-07 18:37:18 | <minty> | would just have to memoize if you just went backwards or forwards, and backwards first if nothing's memoized yet, i just have no idea how to do that with Haskell |
| 2021-10-07 18:38:46 | <minty> | btw, looks like the default keybindings are for prev/next window *in the current workspace*, not the global windowstack |
| 2021-10-07 18:39:26 | <geekosaur> | yeh, you'd be changing that |
| 2021-10-07 18:39:36 | liskin | uses https://github.com/sagb/alttab |
| 2021-10-07 18:39:41 | <geekosaur> | just mentioning how the default picks its keys |
| 2021-10-07 18:40:22 | <liskin> | And by "uses" I mean it's there in case I need it, which happens a couple times a year :-) |
| 2021-10-07 18:40:31 | Solid | just uses M-n and M-e (M-j and M-k by default, afair) |
| 2021-10-07 18:40:32 | <minty> | alttab looks perfect! |
| 2021-10-07 18:47:28 | <minty> | ehh, it only works with the current workspace as well |
| 2021-10-07 18:49:58 | <Solid> | depending on your aesthetic preferences you might try a prompt-based implementation? (X.P.Window) |
| 2021-10-07 18:51:06 | <geekosaur> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Actions-GridSelect.html |
| 2021-10-07 18:51:40 | <geekosaur> | which iirc is all windows for the default window one, but you could build your own with all windows if you wanted to because the low level machinery's fully exposed |
| 2021-10-07 18:52:29 | <geekosaur> | (probably want the git version though, I think there's a color bug in 0.16) |
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| 2021-10-07 20:06:52 | <mekeor[m]> | hey. i'm using emacs with --with-x-toolkit=no and xmonad (on guix system). all windows have a window border except emacs(client). any idea whats wrong? |
| 2021-10-07 20:14:13 | <geekosaur> | applications can override the border setting; perhaps emacsclient does |
| 2021-10-07 20:14:43 | <geekosaur> | (they're not supposed to, but there are lots of broken apps out there and emacs is somewhat infamous for ignoring rules other than its own) |
| 2021-10-07 20:15:21 | <jakefromstatefar> | geekosaur: For the 0.17 release, should we make & announce deprecation/renaming of `rotSlaves`? Just due to possible misunderstanding of its functionality? |
| 2021-10-07 20:16:22 | <jakefromstatefar> | rotSecondary would be a good name. |
| 2021-10-07 20:16:24 | <geekosaur> | mekeor[m], it looks like emacsclient doesn't support -bw so you'd have to figure out the appropriate elisp to make it create a border |
| 2021-10-07 20:17:00 | <geekosaur> | jakefromstatefar, I'm agnostic on that question, aside from that having been the original term for not-master windows |
| 2021-10-07 20:17:13 | <geekosaur> | you might want to open an issue for it so it can be discussed |
| 2021-10-07 20:17:19 | <jakefromstatefar> | OK. |
| 2021-10-07 20:18:56 | <mekeor[m]> | geekosaur, you mean the emacsclient --with-x-toolkit=no does not support "-bw" (what ever that means?). i mean, i used emacsclient in xmonad before. it was just fine. |
| 2021-10-07 20:19:14 | <geekosaur> | -bw is the standard X toolkit option for border_width |
| 2021-10-07 20:19:41 | <mekeor[m]> | ... but i haven't been using it with no x toolkit |
| 2021-10-07 20:19:57 | <mekeor[m]> | ah i see |
| 2021-10-07 20:20:34 | <mekeor[m]> | i guess i'll have to use a x toolkit for bw -.-" |
| 2021-10-07 20:20:53 | <geekosaur> | so I checked emacsclient --help on this system to see if it had any options for changing the border |
| 2021-10-07 20:21:25 | <mekeor[m]> | ah interesting |
| 2021-10-07 20:21:46 | <mekeor[m]> | so windows/programs set their own bw? |
| 2021-10-07 20:21:47 | <geekosaur> | but I've had lots of problems with various emacs versions applying their own ideas of how things should work instead of obeying ICCCM / EWMH |
| 2021-10-07 20:21:56 | <mekeor[m]> | i was thinking xmonad draws borders |
| 2021-10-07 20:22:01 | <geekosaur> | they're not supposed to, per ICCCM |
| 2021-10-07 20:22:37 | <geekosaur> | but the option exists, so you can turn off a border or make it thicker for some windows because you need them to stand out better from other windows or something |
| 2021-10-07 20:22:56 | <geekosaur> | but it's really given to the window manager, and xmonad expects to set it itself |
| 2021-10-07 20:23:32 | <geekosaur> | this said, most modern wms don't set the border so this is the kind of bug nobody would notice unless using e.g. dwm or xmonad |
| 2021-10-07 20:24:41 | <mekeor[m]> | what a chaos :D |
| 2021-10-07 20:24:48 | <mekeor[m]> | thank yoh, geekosaur :) |
| 2021-10-07 20:25:11 | <mekeor[m]> | i'm gonna try emacs --with-x-toolkitn=lucid :) |
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