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2022-08-26 12:36:31 <nurfz[m]> Hi all, I'm using xmonad (0.12) on a raspberry pi and the virtual keyboard "onboard" which I position in a Gap. I want the keyboard to be hidden by default. setGap/setGaps is not available in xmonad 0.12, so I have to use ToggleGaps. But how can I call it once (at startup) to toggle the gaps on ALL workspaces?
2022-08-26 12:36:32 <nurfz[m]> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.12/docs/XMonad-Layout-Gaps.html
2022-08-26 12:36:32 <nurfz[m]> Any ideas?
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2022-08-26 12:43:59 <geekosaur> `broadcastMessage ToggleGaps` in the startupHook?
2022-08-26 12:44:12 <[Leary]> nurfz[m]: Looks like `gaps'` has what you want. Also, your xmonad is ancient beyond measure.
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2022-08-26 12:44:41 <[Leary]> ime, broadcasting to invisible layouts is very unreliable
2022-08-26 12:45:14 <geekosaur> well, yes
2022-08-26 12:46:54 <geekosaur> I've done hacky things to get things to happen in the startupHook before 🙂
2022-08-26 12:47:09 <geekosaur> (then rewrote stuff so I didn't need the hack any more)
2022-08-26 12:50:44 <[Leary]> I once attempted to have mine reset decoration themes to (new) default in all layouts. The lesson I learnt was: don't.
2022-08-26 12:51:23 <geekosaur> yeh, I wouldn't trust it with Decoration. that module is hacky to start with
2022-08-26 12:51:54 <geekosaur> oh also we have a growing list of layouts that don't pass on messages even with broadcast
2022-08-26 12:52:20 <geekosaur> (which is a bug)
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2022-08-26 15:26:08 <Solid> 0.12? hot damn
2022-08-26 15:26:36 <geekosaur> yeh
2022-08-26 15:27:09 <geekosaur> not even sure that's a reasonable version to run, that was around when ManageDocks was rewritten, with the first couple attempts having bugs
2022-08-26 15:27:16 <Solid> 7 years ago, apparently; was a cute first semester student and didn't even use gnu/linux back then :>
2022-08-26 15:27:27 <geekosaur> I think 0.11 would have been better
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2022-08-26 22:28:25 <thyriaen> I am trying to setup my xmonad enviournment - do you have a good starting point to get polybar up and running with xmonad ? ( no overlapping windows, autoloading on startup ) ?
2022-08-26 22:29:30 <geekosaur> should I bother repeating what I told you last time?
2022-08-26 22:30:06 <geekosaur> "overlapping windows" is https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-ManageDocks.html
2022-08-26 22:30:17 <geekosaur> this isn't going to change if you keep asking
2022-08-26 22:30:24 <thyriaen> ohh thanks - i think i did not quite catch your answer last time
2022-08-26 22:30:47 <thyriaen> and i just run polybar with a startup hook ?
2022-08-26 22:31:51 <geekosaur> as for autoloading, https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Core.html#v:spawn
2022-08-26 22:32:02 <geekosaur> either in main or a startupHook
2022-08-26 22:32:15 <thyriaen> ok perfect thanks
2022-08-26 22:32:23 <thyriaen> i think with this i can start get something going
2022-08-26 22:32:31 <thyriaen> i will try my luck :p
2022-08-26 22:33:26 <geekosaur> for it to know about windows, you want either https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-EwmhDesktops.html (easier) or https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-StatusBar-PP.html plus some dbus glue and xmonad-log feeding polybar (significantly harder)
2022-08-26 22:34:07 <thyriaen> i already have ewmh enabled
2022-08-26 22:34:12 <thyriaen> and i read somewhere about the dbus
2022-08-26 22:34:21 <thyriaen> i don't need dbus with ewmh ?
2022-08-26 22:34:58 <geekosaur> nope
2022-08-26 22:35:03 <thyriaen> perfect
2022-08-26 22:35:15 <thyriaen> but all this stuff i will go to once i have a bar running
2022-08-26 22:35:17 <geekosaur> you only need dbus if you want to control what polybar shows directly with X.H.StatusBar.PP
2022-08-26 22:35:24 <thyriaen> ok
2022-08-26 22:36:03 <geekosaur> if you use EWMH it'll do it itself, but you may want to customize its display which requires the StatusBar stuff and dbus and xmonad-log
2022-08-26 22:36:33 <thyriaen> what do you mean by customize its display ?
2022-08-26 22:36:39 <geekosaur> sorry for being a bit grumpy btw. I am not having a good day, and I could have sworn I responded quickly the last time you asked so … a bit grumpy
2022-08-26 22:36:58 <thyriaen> no worries - maybe it just slipped through for some reason
2022-08-26 22:37:14 <geekosaur> not helped by fighting panic attacks for the past few hours because *sigh* that's my life
2022-08-26 22:37:28 <thyriaen> i had those too in the last 2 weeks
2022-08-26 22:37:35 <thyriaen> for the first time ever
2022-08-26 22:40:42 <thyriaen> alrighty
2022-08-26 22:40:46 <thyriaen> thanks for the link

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