Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2022-05-02 11:41:34 | <yuu[m]> | This is pretty intereting. The topics and some latex stuff i'll try to adopt. And when someone like you argue about handwriting in paper, it is pretty convincing 😄 if you want more exposure, I'd recommend posting some screenshots on r/unixporn and the like and a link to the post on the comments |
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| 2022-05-02 11:59:18 | <Solid> | Thanks! :) I have submitted it to the Emacs subreddit, but don't think it's a good fit for unixporn really; I reckon they would laugh at me for my font choices or something :P |
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| 2022-05-02 12:00:57 | <arjun> | Solid, its not like its Comic San MS : P |
| 2022-05-02 12:01:49 | <Solid> | hah, I suppose not |
| 2022-05-02 12:12:22 | <geekosaur> | comic sans is good enough for SPJ… |
| 2022-05-02 12:14:43 | <arjun> | he worked for MS |
| 2022-05-02 12:14:54 | <arjun> | they also have to use bing internally |
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| 2022-05-02 13:47:58 | <liskin> | Solid: do you have fuzzy search in pdf contents, and if not, try ripgrep_all and its rga-fzf script |
| 2022-05-02 13:48:08 | <liskin> | It's crazy fast. |
| 2022-05-02 13:53:47 | <liskin> | Oh and I should probably also try emacs one day, it looks really powerful. :-/ |
| 2022-05-02 13:54:31 | <geekosaur> | it is, but it's also rather a lot of culture shock if you're not used to it like us ancient folks :) |
| 2022-05-02 13:54:56 | <geekosaur> | you can get most of that power from neovim if you prefer |
| 2022-05-02 13:55:02 | <liskin> | Yeah that's why I never tried - I'm very invested in the vim ecosystem |
| 2022-05-02 13:55:15 | <liskin> | But those visual goodies look tempting |
| 2022-05-02 13:55:35 | <liskin> | Can neovim do those latex equations? |
| 2022-05-02 13:56:32 | <liskin> | (Frankly I'm even terrified of switching to neovim because I'm sure half of my stuff will break and I'll spend a week full time fixing it.) |
| 2022-05-02 13:56:40 | <geekosaur> | I suspect if you run it in gui mode someone will have something |
| 2022-05-02 13:57:05 | <geekosaur> | neovim feels to me like someone said "vi really needs all those emacs goodies, let's do it" |
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| 2022-05-02 13:59:19 | <geekosaur> | hm, for thsta matter they might have put in the effort to make it work in text mode, terminals export $WINDOWID for a reason :) |
| 2022-05-02 13:59:28 | <abastro[m]> | Me doing VSCode... |
| 2022-05-02 13:59:45 | <abastro[m]> | sad that I am not smart enough for these advanced ones |
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| 2022-05-02 14:26:23 | <[Leary]> | One of my friends half-sold me on emacs, so I tried it for a few months. What I learned was that---more so than any emacs bell or whistle---not having to write lisp is the real luxury. <.< |
| 2022-05-02 14:30:07 | <geekosaur> | I haven't had to write elisp in a long while, just the occasional cut and paste into my .emacs |
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| 2022-05-02 14:48:57 | <abastro[m]> | Well, for e.g. c++ programmers, writing lisp could be luxury |
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| 2022-05-02 14:52:07 | <Solid> | liskin: oh indeed I've never heard of that :o looks fantastic, thanks :) |
| 2022-05-02 14:52:37 | <Solid> | You should definitely try Emacs; one of the great joys in life is having an excuse to write lisp! |
| 2022-05-02 14:54:01 | <liskin> | :-) |
| 2022-05-02 14:54:05 | <abastro[m]> | Excuse to write lisp.mm |
| 2022-05-02 14:54:08 | <abastro[m]> | ... |
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| 2022-05-02 14:55:28 | <abastro[m]> | I mean I personally dislike parens e.g. in haskell |
| 2022-05-02 14:55:36 | <abastro[m]> | Where FP mandates usage of parens |
| 2022-05-02 14:56:19 | <Solid> | elisp is not especially functional |
| 2022-05-02 14:56:30 | <Solid> | though there are libraries (like dash.el) which make it a little more so |
| 2022-05-02 14:57:18 | <Solid> | there is a real zen to be found in directly manipulting the AST of your language, especially with structural editing support like lispy or paredit |
| 2022-05-02 14:57:19 | <geekosaur> | elisp is a lousy lisp |
| 2022-05-02 14:57:31 | <geekosaur> | but attempts to redo it using guile are stalled |
| 2022-05-02 14:57:44 | <Solid> | quite possibly forever, yes |
| 2022-05-02 14:57:58 | <abastro[m]> | Wdym, FP is defined by lisp /s |
| 2022-05-02 14:58:23 | <abastro[m]> | (Local expert said so) |
| 2022-05-02 14:59:26 | <geekosaur> | lisp is a notation for lambda calculus that escaped its cage :þ |
| 2022-05-02 15:01:58 | <abastro[m]> | Indeed |
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| 2022-05-02 15:27:58 | <abastro[m]> | I legit heard of so-called "expert" saying that lisp's manipulating AST is the core of FP. (Thus giving conclusion that FP is old) |
| 2022-05-02 15:28:13 | <abastro[m]> | I guess FP has several competing definitions :P |
| 2022-05-02 15:28:47 | <geekosaur> | yes it does |
| 2022-05-02 15:29:08 | <geekosaur> | some of them exclude lisp entirely |
| 2022-05-02 15:31:23 | <abastro[m]> | I guess some would exclude haskell for its lousy metaprogramming support |
| 2022-05-02 15:32:44 | <geekosaur> | but some of those include it because laziness means you don't need metaprogramming for some things |
| 2022-05-02 15:35:26 | <abastro[m]> | I mean, some define FP by metaprogramming/homoiconicity |
| 2022-05-02 15:35:32 | <abastro[m]> | Soo |
| 2022-05-02 15:38:49 | <abastro[m]> | In this perspective haskell might not exist as valid language |
| 2022-05-02 15:44:37 | <geekosaur> | nobody goes that far |
| 2022-05-02 15:46:55 | <abastro[m]> | Local "expert" I mentioned earlier has gone there |
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| 2022-05-02 16:56:21 | <M-elo-[m]> | Is there such thing in xmonad that can allow me to replace tmux's tab functionality? I only use tmux to keep terminal tabs nowadays and using tab layout will not work for my current workflow. Want something that can allow me to keep tabbed terminals while existing alongside other applications in the same workplace |
| 2022-05-02 16:56:24 | <M-elo-[m]> | Does that make sense? |
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| 2022-05-02 17:03:24 | <geekosaur> | layouts have no clue what they are displaying |
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| 2022-05-02 17:04:15 | <geekosaur> | (not entirely true, but making tabs only appear for terminals more or less requires banishing all terminals to a tabbed sublayout) |
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| 2022-05-02 18:00:42 | <M-elo-[m]> | <geekosaur> "(not entirely true, but making..." <- Not entirely disabling it for anything else, but a way to group terminals into a tabbed layout of some sort that could allow it to co-exist with other applications with disrupting the workflow |
| 2022-05-02 18:00:44 | <M-elo-[m]> | I guess it's time to look for a terminal alternative to alacritty |
| 2022-05-02 18:02:41 | <arjun> | M-elo-[m], i just made the switch to kitty, because it had tabs |
| 2022-05-02 18:02:45 | <arjun> | apart from other things |
| 2022-05-02 18:03:17 | <M-elo-[m]> | I used to be a kitty user until victor mono semibold wouldn't work |
| 2022-05-02 18:03:25 | <geekosaur> | ComboP should let you group terminals together into a sublayout in which you could use subTabbed |
| 2022-05-02 18:03:36 | <M-elo-[m]> | Forced me to use alacritty instead, will try it out once again and figure out why it did not work |
| 2022-05-02 18:03:53 | <M-elo-[m]> | geekosaur: Will have a look at it, thanks for the suggestion! |
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| 2022-05-02 18:36:53 | <Xioulious> | learning haskell when used to C/C++, python and javascript is pretty hard to get a start in it feels like even with some guides |
| 2022-05-02 18:41:23 | <geekosaur> | it will be, yes |
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