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2022-04-05 06:16:34 <Solid> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/160733 is merged now so nixos should have 0.17.0 I think
2022-04-05 06:16:40 <Solid> at least unstable
2022-04-05 06:17:04 <Solid> and yeah the matrix bridge is having some issues :/
2022-04-05 06:17:12 <Solid> I noticed some messages not making it IRC -> Matrix
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2022-04-05 08:18:00 <abastro[m]> Since when did `isDialog` existed
2022-04-05 08:18:11 <abastro[m]> When I took hours coding in that
2022-04-05 08:19:59 <abastro[m]> Perhaps it has been there near permanently
2022-04-05 08:20:12 <abastro[m]> And I might not have notice it.. :<
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2022-04-05 09:05:56 <abastro[m]> When I was trying hard to reproduce the behavior, but with the minimal example the desktop is so unstable....
2022-04-05 09:06:03 <abastro[m]> It is eager to turn itself off
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2022-04-05 10:23:14 <geekosaur> ManageHelpers has been around a fair while
2022-04-05 10:23:21 <geekosaur> including isDialog
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2022-04-05 10:23:56 <geekosaur> it's worth going through contrib once to see what's there' although remembering all 200 modules is probably asking a bit much for most people :)
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2022-04-05 12:31:33 <abastro[m]> Interesting
2022-04-05 12:31:59 <abastro[m]> I am lost at what would be causing the frequent shutdown on the simplest xmonad instance.
2022-04-05 12:32:20 <abastro[m]> Do you have any idea? It just goes back to login screen without any log.
2022-04-05 13:15:50 <abastro[m]> Perhaps it might be ghc 9.2.2 bug..
2022-04-05 13:36:39 <geekosaur> no¸that usually means xmonad wans'tfound and the sessionshuts down immediately
2022-04-05 13:37:01 <geekosaur> make sure xmonad is in the session's PATH (remember that without helpit's usually /bin:/usr/bin)
2022-04-05 13:40:21 <geekosaur> most commonly you are using an old-stylesession (~/.xsession) and you just need to `source ~/.profile` or similar in it to get your PATH
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2022-04-05 14:44:49 <abastro[m]> No, I mean
2022-04-05 14:45:12 <abastro[m]> It turns on fine
2022-04-05 14:45:22 <abastro[m]> But minutes later, it turns off again
2022-04-05 14:46:02 <geekosaur> uh
2022-04-05 14:46:08 <abastro[m]> Somehow for unknown reason, it suddenly shuts oft
2022-04-05 14:46:18 <abastro[m]> And goes back to login screen
2022-04-05 14:46:39 <abastro[m]> Quite haunting tbh
2022-04-05 14:46:45 <abastro[m]> Not even logs tell anything
2022-04-05 14:47:50 <abastro[m]> geekosaur: any guess?
2022-04-05 14:48:04 <geekosaur> nope
2022-04-05 14:48:10 <abastro[m]> Is it wrong to upgrade to ghc9.2.2
2022-04-05 14:48:46 <geekosaur> I haven't heard of any problems with it, but can't rule out a codegen issue
2022-04-05 14:49:53 <abastro[m]> Wait, xmonad does codegen?
2022-04-05 14:50:07 <abastro[m]> Hmm
2022-04-05 14:51:09 <geekosaur> no, I'm suggesting oif the compiler produces bad code then xmonadmight simply be dumping core
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2022-04-05 14:59:38 <abastro[m]> Ohno
2022-04-05 15:00:16 <abastro[m]> Hm how would I..
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2022-04-05 15:13:01 <geekosaur> possibly a wrapper script
2022-04-05 15:20:56 <abastro[m]> Hm idk if it would be dumping core
2022-04-05 15:21:21 <abastro[m]> I also observed that this random crashing happens often after recompiling
2022-04-05 15:22:03 <abastro[m]> I can do many things, like browsing the internet with xmonad working, but when I trigger recompile functionality
2022-04-05 15:22:05 <geekosaur> you might not find core files if the system has them disabled (many linuxes default to `ulimit -c 0`) or catches them (that normally provides a pop-up, but not if it takes the session with it)
2022-04-05 15:22:11 <abastro[m]> It suddenly turns off!
2022-04-05 15:22:29 <abastro[m]> Then it turns off in a minute a few times more
2022-04-05 15:22:55 <geekosaur> hm. something about handleEventHook then, maybe?
2022-04-05 15:26:05 <abastro[m]> What does handleEventHook does?
2022-04-05 15:26:11 <geekosaur> I would arrange to build with debug info (requires a build script) and then run it via gdb, but I know what to do with the result :) (and how to do it…)
2022-04-05 15:26:11 <abastro[m]> do*
2022-04-05 15:27:13 <geekosaur> any event xmonad receives from the server goes through the master handleEventHook. first it runs the user handleEventHook (which is normally empty), then it handles various internal events
2022-04-05 15:27:39 <geekosaur> oh wait, recompile doesn't send any events, only restart does
2022-04-05 15:28:06 <geekosaur> what kind of machine is this? any chance you could be running out of memory?
2022-04-05 15:30:51 <abastro[m]> Oh wait

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