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2023-10-29 10:45:07 <Manu38> vrs I'm gonna try `stalonetray` right now.
2023-10-29 10:45:09 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> It's seemingly compiling and not faling like stack did.
2023-10-29 10:45:19 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> I use KDE plus Xmonad WM
2023-10-29 10:45:42 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> I don't want to make my life difficult with trying to find minimalist tools and muck around tweaking my desktop like a 20 year old 🙂
2023-10-29 10:45:50 <Solid> Manu38: not you, don't worry :)
2023-10-29 10:45:57 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> I'm old. I need things to work. I have no time to hacking around on such things
2023-10-29 10:46:13 <Manu38> vrs
2023-10-29 10:46:38 <Manu38> `stalonetray` is an alternative to `trayer`, isn't it ?
2023-10-29 10:46:59 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Would you guys know how to install xmobar using cabal?
2023-10-29 10:47:21 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> I got it. You have to use --lib
2023-10-29 10:47:49 <Solid> Manu38: according to its page, fbxkb should support switching to "alternative" keyboard layouts
2023-10-29 10:48:25 <Solid> so, like, if you first do `setxkbmap us,fr` then it should pick that up
2023-10-29 10:48:41 <Solid> (this is just based on conjecture and reading the page, I can't try it myself)
2023-10-29 10:50:54 <Solid> AFAIK polybar also has this built-in, in case you are up for trying alternative status bars
2023-10-29 10:55:32 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Now I have other problems
2023-10-29 10:55:54 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> I installed xmonad with cabal, and now when I try to xmonad --recompile, it says none of the extensions can be found
2023-10-29 10:56:17 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> xmonad.hs:67:1: error:
2023-10-29 10:56:17 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Could not load module ‘XMonad.Actions.ConstrainedResize’
2023-10-29 10:56:18 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> It says this about every module
2023-10-29 11:00:50 <Solid> make sure that `xmonad` is pointing to the right executable
2023-10-29 11:01:55 <Solid> and that you have also installed xmonad-contrib with --lib, as https://xmonad.org/INSTALL.html#build-using-cabal-install says
2023-10-29 11:01:59 <Manu38> Solid which status bar are you using ?
2023-10-29 11:02:10 <Solid> (and please, please change your username to something reasonable)
2023-10-29 11:02:39 <Solid> Manu38: I use xmobar, because my needs are very minimal (no system tray, for example :)
2023-10-29 11:02:51 <Solid> if I was more picky I'd most likely also use polybar
2023-10-29 11:04:05 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> I got most of the errors to go away
2023-10-29 11:04:08 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Could not find module ‘Data.Default’
2023-10-29 11:04:20 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> I keep getting this. Building Xmonad has never been so difficult before
2023-10-29 11:04:35 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Could someone please help?
2023-10-29 11:05:37 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> ```
2023-10-29 11:05:37 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> $ xmonad --recompile
2023-10-29 11:05:38 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> XMonad will use ghc to recompile, because neither "/home/stoned/.xmonad/build" nor "/home/stoned/.xmonad/stack.yaml" exists.
2023-10-29 11:05:39 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> XMonad recompiling (forced).
2023-10-29 11:05:41 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Errors detected while compiling xmonad config: /home/stoned/.xmonad/xmonad.hs
2023-10-29 11:05:42 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> $ ghc --make xmonad.hs -i -ilib -fforce-recomp -main-is main -v0 -outputdir /home/stoned/.xmonad/build-x86_64-linux -o /home/stoned/.xmonad/xmonad-x86_64-linux
2023-10-29 11:05:43 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Loaded package environment from /home/stoned/.ghc/x86_64-linux-8.8.4/environments/default
2023-10-29 11:05:45 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> xmonad.hs:2:1: error:
2023-10-29 11:05:46 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Could not find module ‘Data.Default’
2023-10-29 11:05:47 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Use -v (or `:set -v` in ghci) to see a list of the files searched for.
2023-10-29 11:05:49 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> |
2023-10-29 11:05:50 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> 2 | import Data.Default
2023-10-29 11:05:51 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
2023-10-29 11:05:53 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Please check the file for errors.
2023-10-29 11:05:54 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> ```
2023-10-29 11:06:20 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Only thing I'm doing is reinstalling Ubuntu 22. Configs are the same as before. Nothing has changed.
2023-10-29 11:06:22 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> Please don't copy these gigantic error messages in here, the IRC side can barely cope with this
2023-10-29 11:06:31 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Oh ok
2023-10-29 11:10:09 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> rm -rf ~/.xmonad*; then recompile.
2023-10-29 11:10:48 <haskellbridge> <T​ranquil Ity> That.s gigantic over on the IRC side? How does it look?
2023-10-29 11:11:10 <haskellbridge> <T​ranquil Ity> I.d look myself, but yk, libera.chat
2023-10-29 11:13:41 <liskin> Is there any chance HB can shorten their nickname somewhat?
2023-10-29 11:14:18 <liskin> It's taking _two_ full lines in here, making IRC near unusable for me.
2023-10-29 11:14:49 <liskin> (and when I say somewhat I mean ideally to just "HB" because what the actual fuck is going on there)
2023-10-29 11:15:24 <Manu38> Solid : it's ok with `fxkb`, I completely misunderstood `xkbma` ! Thank you very much. And got it for the user name, it's the one of haskellbridge the problem :)
2023-10-29 11:16:48 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> I can't change this nickname. I can however, try to come in later with a different account/nickname. This one is on mozilla.org. I have one on matrix.org too. I think it's Nexilva
2023-10-29 11:20:09 <liskin> What do you mean you can't change it? You changed it a couple days ago.
2023-10-29 11:20:19 <liskin> It was <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿>
2023-10-29 11:20:39 <liskin> Now it is <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿>
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2023-10-29 11:25:36 <haskellbridge> <T​ranquil Ity> Gotta flex the certs they wasted their money on :D
2023-10-29 11:31:30 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> Tranquil Ity http://ix.io/4Kf9
2023-10-29 11:32:19 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> I admit most of it might even be because (i) the username, and (ii) the non-puppeting(?) bridge
2023-10-29 11:32:51 <haskellbridge> <T​ranquil Ity> Oh no that looks like such an unreadable mess
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2023-10-29 12:24:58 <Manu38> Other question from a newbie : do you have fix named workspaces with always the same windows in each of them that are set up at launch time, or do you work with numbered workspace that you dynamically populate depending on your need, or do you have a mix of both ?
2023-10-29 12:25:59 <Manu38> I am asking that, because before I was not using workspaces at all. I had all my apps on the same single workspace, and I was just moving them between my two screens depending on my needs.
2023-10-29 12:26:58 <Manu38> And for now, the workspace concept of xmonad, along with the fact that each of my screen is a view on one of these workspace is quite disturbing to me.
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2023-10-29 13:43:58 liskin does a mix of both - first two are fixed (one for comms, another one for browser and rss), and then project workspaces go after those
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2023-10-29 13:58:23 <geekosaur> most of my workspaces are fixed, but I have a few that I use for tasks
2023-10-29 13:58:32 <geekosaur> oh, they left
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2023-10-29 16:50:15 <Manu38> liskin et geekosaur thank you for the answers
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2023-10-29 17:00:38 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> I handle it the same way as liskin; the early workspaces are fixed, but beyond that I have a [long list](https://gitlab.com/slotThe/dotfiles/-/blob/master/xmonad/.config/xmonad/src/xmonad.hs?ref_type=heads#L232) of project-specific workspaces
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2023-10-29 17:23:27 <liskin> Same might be an overstatement, my project workspaces are more ad hoc. I just use WorkspaceDir and WorkspaceNames
2023-10-29 18:41:36 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Is it necessary to say shitty things like to members of the community?
2023-10-29 18:42:57 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Or if you're just an asshole, please let us know and I'll promptly block you. I'm autistic, I'm already going through too much in life, suicidal most days, and working on my bachelors degree, that comes with a dozen industry certifications. I don't need some random asshole adding insult to injury, ruining my mental state
2023-10-29 18:42:57 <haskellbridge> and day so I can't study.
2023-10-29 18:43:11 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> That was a rotten thing you said. Shame on you.
2023-10-29 18:46:43 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Doing hard work, working on my education, trying to better my miserable depressed life, and this guy thought it was appropriate to shit on me and my life, insult me, tell me I'm flexing, (which already carries a negative connotation general parlance), tell me I'm wasting it on my education?
2023-10-29 18:47:09 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Why do you think it's appropriate to abuse people here, mna?
2023-10-29 18:47:20 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> What makes you think that this is okay to do?
2023-10-29 18:50:58 <haskellbridge> <T​ranquil Ity> You shouldn.t take what random strangers say to you too hard ^^
2023-10-29 18:51:00 <haskellbridge> <T​ranquil Ity> I am sorry if it seemed mean, but the nickname is comical, and very few people hiring that hang out on matrix will care about how many certificates you purchased.
2023-10-29 18:51:01 <haskellbridge> <T​ranquil Ity> Obviously it depends on the country you live in, but in general, picking a field and learning all that you can so that you can be confident in your skills is is the best you can do, imho.
2023-10-29 18:51:02 <haskellbridge> <T​ranquil Ity> With all that said, good luck!
2023-10-29 18:51:08 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> What happens if my mind fucks up and I go end up killing myself because of your insensitive remark?
2023-10-29 18:51:31 <haskellbridge> <🍄​ HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,Pentest+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SOMEONE COULD BE GOING THROUGH in life.
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