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| 2023-10-30 14:05:34 | <liskin> | Yeah, I'm starting to think I might be able to go again next year |
| 2023-10-30 14:06:13 | <liskin> | Need to book accomodation earlier though, sleeping in a damp cellar wasn't the best |
| 2023-10-30 14:10:53 | <Solid> | uff |
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| 2023-10-30 15:55:30 | <haskellbridge> | <liskin> lol, I can't even mark rooms as read in Matrix |
| 2023-10-30 15:57:07 | <haskellbridge> | <liskin> This is beyond ridiculous. How can they keep failing at doing the most basic things IRC had for decades :-( |
| 2023-10-30 15:58:10 | <geekosaur> | which client? |
| 2023-10-30 15:58:45 | <geekosaur> | afaict the way you do it in element android is to press the X on "jump to unread" |
| 2023-10-30 15:59:13 | <geekosaur> | which… not exactly intuitive |
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| 2023-10-30 15:59:45 | <liskin> | both nheko and element |
| 2023-10-30 16:00:00 | <liskin> | element has a context menu entry for it |
| 2023-10-30 16:00:18 | <geekosaur> | interesting, those normally do it "live" |
| 2023-10-30 16:00:20 | <liskin> | and it does absolutely nothing, because there's probably some state somewhere that is messed up or something |
| 2023-10-30 16:10:01 | <haskellbridge> | <Tranquil Ity> Usually opening and closing a room and spamming escape works |
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| 2023-10-30 16:11:31 | <liskin> | Yeah, that has been my experience too. Until today. |
| 2023-10-30 16:19:47 | <haskellbridge> | <Tranquil Ity> In any case it.s almost always a bug in the client rather than an issue with the protocol. In addition, if you are on a slow homeserver (such as matrix.org), there might be a delay depending on how well the client deals with unresponsive servers as clearing notifications seems to involve a server round trip. |
| 2023-10-30 16:20:37 | <geekosaur> | yes, they're sent to the server and then forwarded to other clients using the account |
| 2023-10-30 16:20:54 | <haskellbridge> | <Tranquil Ity> In any case it.s almost always a bug in the client rather than an issue with the protocol. In addition, if you are on a slow and/or buggy homeserver (such as matrix.org), there might be a delay depending on how well the client deals with unresponsive servers as clearing notifications seems to involve a server round trip. |
| 2023-10-30 16:21:29 | <haskellbridge> | <Tranquil Ity> Yep, that seems to be what the spec suggests. Send a read event, then sync. |
| 2023-10-30 16:21:36 | <geekosaur> | I've seen, for example, someone highlighting me, the phone pops up a notification, then the desktop client marks it read, then the notification disappears once the phone receives it |
| 2023-10-30 16:23:05 | <haskellbridge> | <Tranquil Ity> Yep I.ve seen that as well |
| 2023-10-30 16:23:06 | <haskellbridge> | <Tranquil Ity> I believe there.s some account data or maybe to-device shared on what.s the active client between clients that support it, as it doesn.t happen that often |
| 2023-10-30 16:24:31 | <haskellbridge> | <Tranquil Ity> Negotiating which client will be used to deliver a notif, and whether multiple will deliver it, certainly sounds like a pretty difficult problem |
| 2023-10-30 16:25:21 | <geekosaur> | afaict all of them receive it and the first one to mark it read clears it for the others |
| 2023-10-30 16:27:02 | <haskellbridge> | <Tranquil Ity> That is possible |
| 2023-10-30 16:27:03 | <haskellbridge> | <Tranquil Ity> Maybe might be worth it to suggest an MSC for negotiating which clients will silence their notifications |
| 2023-10-30 16:27:04 | <haskellbridge> | <Tranquil Ity> I haven.t looked too deep into it, maybe I should |
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| 2023-10-30 16:33:40 | <haskellbridge> | <Tranquil Ity> Right now my priority is figuring out why `rotation_period_msgs` is not working as it.s supposed to in element, and whether that is a security issue heh. |
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