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2022-11-13 15:19:02 <LemanR> geekosaur and here
2022-11-13 15:19:42 <geekosaur> I'd actually put the startup one in .xinitrc (or .xsession if your distro has unified them)
2022-11-13 15:20:02 <geekosaur> but if you want to do it in xmonad.hs you can do it in the startupHook
2022-11-13 15:20:09 <geekosaur> you'd still use spawn
2022-11-13 15:20:44 <LemanR> k so look up startupHook and from there it sounds like it's going to be trivial after reading
2022-11-13 15:24:37 <geekosaur> the bigger question might be xmonad keybindings, since you might want those to change with the keymap. I think there's a module for that but I'm not sure
2022-11-13 15:25:52 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Actions-KeyRemap.html
2022-11-13 15:25:53 <LemanR> Well I'm also beginning to learn haskell so I'm only writing things I can personally read and communicate specifically (mostly to myself) what the code is doing. I will add multi-layouts but later. I read some code on that and was just like deeeeerrrrrrrp lol
2022-11-13 15:34:26 <geekosaur> I used xmonad to learn haskell. flip side I already understood X11 so I could use that to orient
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2022-11-13 15:52:22 <LemanR> I'm looking this up now but in case I'm going about this wrong, I see hooks look automatically setup, if I wanted to see the code for a hook like myTerminal where would I find this? my xmonad dir (inside .config) only has the xmonad.hs file
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2022-11-13 15:52:34 <LemanR> understanding what hooks are doing would help me reason about my code (i'm very detailed oriented)
2022-11-13 15:53:53 <LemanR> following https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3noK4GTmyMw atm (distrotube intro to xmonad) but he starts using myTerminal which is just there and atm I guess works by magic lol hence why I want to see what is setting myTerminal and how xmonad knows setting it to xterm or alacritty 'knows' that I mean the terminal and not something else
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2022-11-13 15:57:43 <geekosaur> there's a `terminal = myTerminal` somewhere in the config record, if you're using one of the commonly tossed-around xmonad.hs files, and mod-shift-enter uses that definition to launch a terminal
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2022-11-13 16:00:38 <LemanR> I'm starting from scratch so this is what I have so far https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3noK4GTmyMw
2022-11-13 16:06:24 <LemanR> omg I just saw my copy/paste didn't copy lol one sec
2022-11-13 16:06:39 <LemanR> http://dpaste.com/8ZNGG5SUG
2022-11-13 16:07:36 <geekosaur> interesting, that doesn't have a terminal definition at all
2022-11-13 16:08:02 <LemanR> I made it from touch, so literally from the minimal. I have basic functionality atm.
2022-11-13 16:08:33 <LemanR> this is kinda like a first haskell project I will add to as I continue learning haskell
2022-11-13 16:08:34 <geekosaur> so it should be using xterm unless you're on debian/ubuntu and using their package, in which case it runs "x-terminal-emulator" and installing alacritty would cause update-alternatives to register it as x-terminal-emulator
2022-11-13 16:09:06 <geekosaur> debian's fun that way
2022-11-13 16:09:17 <geekosaur> does the same with browsers (as x-www-browser)
2022-11-13 16:09:29 <Solid> LemanR: I reckon that video has a `myTerminal = "alacritty"' somewhere in the config
2022-11-13 16:09:45 <geekosaur> the video was a mistake (see "omg")
2022-11-13 16:10:04 <Solid> but above they did say they were following it
2022-11-13 16:10:39 <Solid> (btw, obligatory plug for https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html because I think it explains things rather well)
2022-11-13 16:13:47 <LemanR> I just realized..........this is coding of a general programming lanuage, my answer for how some thing 'x' works is probably in one of the files I'm importing. (I am neuroscience student formally with a strong interest in computer science). Solid will read that link
2022-11-13 16:14:22 <LemanR> point being I find myself making obvious mistakes from time to time lol
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2022-11-13 17:06:36 <LemanR> still haven't found where my modules are being stored o.0
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2022-11-13 17:42:46 <Rutherther[m]> hi, I am using xmonad with xmobar with multi (3) monitor setup, on each monitor I have xmobar
2022-11-13 17:42:46 <Rutherther[m]> is there a possibility to show a visible workspace differently from the others if and only if it is on the monitor on which the xmobar is? Currently when I set ppVisible to show the workspace differently, it will be shown on all of the monitors the same way. I cannot tell which workspace is opened on which monitor.
2022-11-13 17:42:46 <Rutherther[m]> If I understand it at least slightly correctly, it seems to me like I would need to feed different inputs into each xmobar from xmonad, but I am not sure how to do that, I am using XMonad.Hooks.StatusBar and XMonad.Hooks.StatusBar.PP with dynamicEasySBs
2022-11-13 17:42:46 <Rutherther[m]> I had it like this for a while so I got used to it and usually remember what workspaces I am on, but still it would be more convenient to differentiate between them
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2022-11-13 18:05:10 <LemanR> still no luck finding the modules on my file system so I can read them and learn the gist of how they work.
2022-11-13 18:05:35 <LemanR> I don't have ./xmonad/lib/
2022-11-13 18:13:47 <LemanR> I FOUND IT!!! it was in /usr/lib64/xmonad-contrib.../ghc.../XMonad
2022-11-13 18:13:55 <LemanR> ... version numbers
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2022-11-13 18:18:41 <Guest40> hey this is guest 40 again, I am back with the solution incase someone else has the same issue. Turns out it is not an xmonad nor a gpu issue. I found that the picom configuration i was using was using a incompatible backend.
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2022-11-14 06:39:11 <Solid> Rutherther[m]: X.H.StatusBar shows you how to set up multiple bars ( https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Hooks-StatusBar.html#g:3 ); you would then have to use something like logTitlesOnScreen from X.U.Loggers ( https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Util-Loggers.html#v:logTitlesOnScreen )
2022-11-14 07:01:13 <Rutherther[m]> <Solid> "Rutherther: X.H.StatusBar..." <- yeah I have that, but I want to log workspaces separately, I already have the titles on screen as you are suggesting, ppVisible is shown on each monitor the same way, I would like it to match the current monitor the xmobar is on. So I can tell on which monitor the workspace is visible, not just that it is visible
2022-11-14 07:04:56 <Solid> oh, sorry, I misread workspaces as windows
2022-11-14 07:05:14 <Rutherther[m]> no worries
2022-11-14 07:13:30 <Solid> I was going to say `ppRename' might suffice for this, but it only gets the WindowSpace and not the whole WindowSet... Though you can use `ppPrinters' to create a new predicate to use instead of `ppVisible'
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2022-11-14 07:23:10 <Rutherther[m]> <Solid> "I was going to say `ppRename..." <- oh, do you know if there are some public dotfiles/examples using that? I haven't learned Haskell yet so I am very bad in understanding it from the documentation. But I will eventually figure it out I think
2022-11-14 07:23:52 <Rutherther[m]> it could be any usage of ppRename/ppPrinters, doesn't have to be the one I want
2022-11-14 07:30:07 <Solid> mh, I don't think I've seen very many ppPrinters uses (mostly people can get by without it), sorry
2022-11-14 07:30:21 <Solid> i would write something up but I think I better get back to work now :)
2022-11-14 07:30:46 <Rutherther[m]> Solid: okay, thanks for your time
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