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2022-12-12 08:34:00 <liskin> geekosaur: git, but I don't update often, so I could be running pre-0.17.1 snapshot
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2022-12-12 09:45:16 <RobertKrook> Hi! If I want to talk to a maintainer familiar with the quickcheck properties of XMonad, who should I talk to? :)
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2022-12-12 10:07:56 <liskin> RobertKrook: I don't think anyone actively involved with the existing quickcheck stuff is still active in the project :-(
2022-12-12 10:09:01 <liskin> those of us who are active are able to familiarise ourselves with the code, but then any Haskell programmer is
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2022-12-12 10:23:23 <RobertKrook> Ah okay, I am a PhD student supervised by Koen Claessen (one half of the initial QC authors), and I've made an extension to QC that I'd love to benchmark on a 'project in the wild'
2022-12-12 10:23:33 <RobertKrook> liskin
2022-12-12 10:24:06 <RobertKrook> Before I start trying to do that, I was wondering if there is anyone I can talk to if I run into any troubles reviewing the tests
2022-12-12 10:32:55 <Solid> RobertKrook: I think just asking in here will be fine; if that's too "unofficial" then feel free to email the maintainers (scraping from github: allbery.b@gmail.com, byorgey@gmail.com, soliditsallgood@mailbox.org, tomi@nomi.cz, yecine.megdiche@gmail.com) directly or post on the xmonad mailing list ( https://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xmonad )
2022-12-12 10:33:53 <Solid> If you'd prefer to talk to the original authors then I guess emailing Don Stewart would be the best course of action
2022-12-12 10:34:50 <RobertKrook> Okay, thanks for the help! Just thought I'd inquire before actually starting :P
2022-12-12 10:34:55 <RobertKrook> I'll try posting in here
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2022-12-12 10:37:06 <Solid> if you don't mind sharing: what's the extension about?
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2022-12-12 14:06:34 <[Leary]> Advance warning: I've finally gotten around to splitting/cleaning up my mess of xmonad and contrib branches, and am planning to drop maybe a dozen PRs in the next few days.
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2022-12-12 14:06:58 <[Leary]> Or rather, if I don't, please someone smack me with a trout---I hate having these things sitting around. <.<
2022-12-12 14:07:17 <thyriaen> Is it possible to change the order of the current window in a tabbed layout ?
2022-12-12 14:08:08 thyriaen slaps [Leary] around a bit with a large trout
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2022-12-12 15:42:05 <geekosaur> thyriaen, it's not in general possible to reorder a window stack
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2022-12-12 16:10:24 <geekosaur> AskYourself[m], `title` is whichever of `_NET_WM_NAME` or `WM_NAME` it finds on the window. if you need it to be only `WM_NAME` you can use `stringProperty`
2022-12-12 16:11:06 <geekosaur> that said, `WM_NAME` and `_NET_WM_NAME` are allowed to change dynamically and may be different when the `manageHook` sees the window than when you see it
2022-12-12 16:11:45 <geekosaur> you can se the `ManageDebug` module to see what the `manageHook` sees in the log, or use `DynamicProperty` to match the window when its title changes
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2022-12-12 18:45:48 <xmonadtrack> New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/785 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/785
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2022-12-12 20:19:29 <liskin> [Leary]: :-D
2022-12-12 20:20:37 <liskin> it's not the worst timing, as I'll be off from work for second half of december; but then ideally I'd be off from xmonad as well, otherwise I'll never get close to recovering :-(
2022-12-12 20:23:05 <geekosaur> @tell thyriaen actually it's not impossible to reorder a stack, just that nobody to my knowledge has written it. The operation you pass to X.O.windows can do pretty much whatever it wants to the stack including reordering it. Making that match up with tabs might be harder though; you might have to remove the tabs and call some internal thing to make addtabs recreate them
2022-12-12 20:23:05 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
2022-12-12 20:37:19 <AskYourself[m]> <geekosaur> "Ask Yourself🍉, `title` is..." <- Ok, in that case I can't see where my code is wrong
2022-12-12 20:37:31 AskYourself[m] sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/cbca6292386924d3e334c1e0dc2e196ad3db832a
2022-12-12 20:38:23 <geekosaur> use ManageDebug to make sure that WM_NAME (or _NET_WM_NAME) is set as you expect when the manageHook runs
2022-12-12 20:39:01 <geekosaur> or for that matter WM_CLASS; stuff that uses an embedded browser often doesn't set that until after the window is mapped
2022-12-12 20:39:05 <AskYourself[m]> Isn't that what I've already confirmed with xprop?
2022-12-12 20:39:17 <geekosaur> (spotify is guilty of that one, for example, whihc is why DynamicProperty exists)
2022-12-12 20:39:34 <geekosaur> no, you confirmed that that's how it is set after the window settles down
2022-12-12 20:39:39 <geekosaur> not when it's first mapped
2022-12-12 20:40:55 <geekosaur> ManageDebug will show you wnat the manageHook sees, which for an embedded browser window may be very different than what you see with xprop afterward
2022-12-12 20:41:25 <geekosaur> (or non-embedded browsers: chrome windows come up with a base64-encoded thingy)

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