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2022-12-08 11:37:16 <ChaoticMist[m]> Lmao
2022-12-08 11:37:31 <ChaoticMist[m]> Interesting enough, most people who start with haskell writes a lisp interpreter
2022-12-08 11:37:48 <_Ity[m]> I spent 1 hour on a bug
2022-12-08 11:37:52 <ChaoticMist[m]> And we have rather short amount of docs for the language for people to devour.. kinda sad that this is an issue after 30 years
2022-12-08 11:38:43 <_Ity[m]> _Ity[m]: `foo x = let x = x+1 in x` outputs <<loop>> at runtime
2022-12-08 11:39:05 <_Ity[m]> And it took ages to track down
2022-12-08 11:39:11 <_Ity[m]> I didn't get the scoping
2022-12-08 11:39:18 <_Ity[m]> * The scoping's weird
2022-12-08 11:39:40 <ChaoticMist[m]> Oh
2022-12-08 11:39:49 <ChaoticMist[m]> Why do you think haskell is not good for the project btw?
2022-12-08 11:39:54 <ChaoticMist[m]> Got to learn when to use the language
2022-12-08 11:40:21 <_Ity[m]> It's just the amount of effort vs the amount of
2022-12-08 11:40:23 <_Ity[m]> Oh sec
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2022-12-08 11:45:02 <_Ity[m]> The amount of effort vs the returns
2022-12-08 11:45:18 <_Ity[m]> Aka the stuff the lang helps with
2022-12-08 11:45:40 <ChaoticMist[m]> Is it much more complex when compared to other languages?
2022-12-08 11:45:44 <_Ity[m]> Well
2022-12-08 11:45:47 <ChaoticMist[m]> Example, rust?
2022-12-08 11:45:58 <_Ity[m]> I don't know much Rust
2022-12-08 11:46:05 <ChaoticMist[m]> Oh nvm that comparison then
2022-12-08 11:46:11 <_Ity[m]> But, well
2022-12-08 11:46:12 <ChaoticMist[m]> What languages can you compare with besides py
2022-12-08 11:46:18 <ChaoticMist[m]> s/py/bash/
2022-12-08 11:46:23 <_Ity[m]> Well
2022-12-08 11:46:26 <_Ity[m]> Hold on
2022-12-08 11:46:37 <ChaoticMist[m]> 👍️
2022-12-08 11:48:36 thunderrd joins (~thunderrd@183.182.115.167)
2022-12-08 11:50:20 <_Ity[m]> A matrix client is mostly about making HTTP requests and processing JSON
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2022-12-08 11:52:37 <ChaoticMist[m]> Aeson is for that, right?
2022-12-08 11:54:00 <_Ity[m]> I am still new to Haskell overall
2022-12-08 11:54:42 <_Ity[m]> For smth that's mostly HTTP requests and processing JSON, I don't think that Haskell is a good choice
2022-12-08 11:55:17 <ChaoticMist[m]> I don't know tbh, but we can always make it better^{TM} is a good moto lol
2022-12-08 11:56:20 <_Ity[m]> I guess haha
2022-12-08 11:56:25 <_Ity[m]> It's overall the lang I think
2022-12-08 11:56:41 <ChaoticMist[m]> Nonetheless, we have elm
2022-12-08 11:56:50 <_Ity[m]> Ain't Elm for frontend?
2022-12-08 11:56:58 <ChaoticMist[m]> IIRC you are right
2022-12-08 11:57:08 <_Ity[m]> I did have some fun with Elm on the frontend
2022-12-08 11:57:16 <ChaoticMist[m]> https://github.com/elm-fullstack/elm-fullstack
2022-12-08 11:58:38 <ChaoticMist[m]> I don't recall where but I think I saw an FP backend alternative that looks similar to haskells syntax
2022-12-08 11:58:46 <ChaoticMist[m]> IIRC.. might've been dreaming
2022-12-08 12:00:10 <_Ity[m]> Hmm
2022-12-08 12:00:32 <_Ity[m]> I did write a socket server for my doorbell
2022-12-08 12:00:34 <_Ity[m]> In HS
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2022-12-08 12:00:57 _Ity[m] sent a hs code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/2a3e425dfd968a9d1c881aa6843211cad0f98ed6
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2022-12-08 12:04:14 <ChaoticMist[m]> > <@tranquillity_:midov.pl> ```hs... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/0f41546aa430fc90f7892eb1a2db76651f6a7e3d>)
2022-12-08 12:04:15 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<@’
2022-12-08 12:04:20 <ChaoticMist[m]> bruh..
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2022-12-08 12:09:09 <_Ity[m]> ChaoticMist[m]: Ya, was fun, but it doesn't work and I'll need to rewrite it
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2022-12-08 12:13:16 _Ity[m] uploaded an image: (780KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/midov.pl/fxKDeagYGNXDCqVBDvmjQZPO/image.png >
2022-12-08 12:13:50 <_Ity[m]> The lisp btw
2022-12-08 12:14:04 <ChaoticMist[m]> _Ity[m]: Oh well
2022-12-08 12:14:37 <ChaoticMist[m]> _Ity[m]: It does implement most lisp features, yes?
2022-12-08 12:14:50 <ChaoticMist[m]> I am familiar with lisp btw, was an emacs user for quite some time and switched due to aesthetics.. lol
2022-12-08 12:15:09 <_Ity[m]> ChaoticMist[m]: Nah, I only wrote some basic things overnight
2022-12-08 12:15:16 _Ity[m] sent a hs code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/473026a4e29c4fc5ad495dadbf4aca1d5be0859c
2022-12-08 12:15:41 <_Ity[m]> * ```hs... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/a25b1147e977658e2d2c3a2962287b937ee3055c>)
2022-12-08 12:15:47 <_Ity[m]> ChaoticMist[m]: Lisp is fun
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2022-12-08 12:16:16 <_Ity[m]> Mine is a bit of a research thingy, for implementing various langdev things for experiments
2022-12-08 12:16:18 <_Ity[m]> It's inspired by lua
2022-12-08 12:16:44 <ChaoticMist[m]> I don't know tbh, lua clicked better for me 🤷‍♂️
2022-12-08 12:17:18 <ChaoticMist[m]> I am aware that lua lacks a lot when compared to lisp, it's just the syntax
2022-12-08 12:17:24 <ChaoticMist[m]> * the syntax that I am comparing atm
2022-12-08 12:18:55 <ChaoticMist[m]> alright, going out for a walk before taking a nap.. talk to you later and it was nice chatting with you! :)
2022-12-08 12:21:06 <_Ity[m]> ChaoticMist[m]: I like the flexibility of the Lisp syntax with some of the magic of Lua
2022-12-08 12:21:13 <_Ity[m]> ChaoticMist[m]: Talk to you later ^^
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2022-12-08 13:53:40 <xmonadtrack> X11-xft New branch created: pull/4 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/X11-xft/pull/4
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2022-12-08 14:29:09 <xmonadtrack> X11-xft Vladislav {brandon s allbery kf8nh} * v0.3.4-18-gfd49967: Swap green and blue in Storable XRenderColor (53 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) https://github.com/xmonad/X11-xft/commit/fd49967ce918
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2022-12-08 15:59:16 <liskin> ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Much_Ado_About_Nothing
2022-12-08 16:00:16 <liskin> slightly tempted to go and forcepush a commit message change, because it really is just cosmetics, the real fix went in months/years ago
2022-12-08 16:00:21 <liskin> geekosaur: ^
2022-12-08 16:02:01 <geekosaur> mm?
2022-12-08 16:03:11 <geekosaur> oh
2022-12-08 16:04:05 <geekosaur> still seems like it's inconsistent and confusing?
2022-12-08 16:05:19 <liskin> I mean, yeah, it's an improvement in code readability
2022-12-08 16:05:48 <liskin> just worried that someone might expect a functional change :-)
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2022-12-08 18:33:16 <thyriaen> Do you know how to tell a gtk application that I am running a dark theme
2022-12-08 18:33:43 <dminuoso> liskin: I like the smell of brew in my pint, not in the air.
2022-12-08 18:34:05 <dminuoso> But each to his own...
2022-12-08 18:34:47 <geekosaur> thyriaen, use something like lxappearance to configure gtk themes
2022-12-08 18:35:16 <geekosaur> otherwise you have to launch something like gsettings to do the daemon-based gtk settings stuff

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