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| 2023-01-07 14:27:56 | <geekosaur> | also things like sway which would also be impossible if that comment were true |
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| 2023-01-07 14:31:27 | <geekosaur> | what is true is that you won't be able to pick up an xmonad config and use it under waymonad, but that's because xmonad is a thin wrapper over xlib |
| 2023-01-07 14:36:28 | <geekosaur> | what is also true, and may be the only sense in which that comment is true, is that a window manager is expected to provide the window server / compositor as well. but there's already wlroots for that, and there are multiple window managers that use it although sway is the main one |
| 2023-01-07 14:36:54 | <geekosaur> | (I did see a note that KDE was considering switching to it instead of maintaining their own compositor, but I don't know how true it is) |
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| 2023-01-07 15:47:51 | <kora9> | geekosaur: Yeah, I read the part about wayland not working for xmonad on the waymonad github somewhere I believe. The last commit to the Waymonad project was 3 years ago |
| 2023-01-07 15:48:37 | <kora9> | I'm having some issues figuring out how to implement nsHideOnFocusLoss in my config: https://sharetext.me/wnuko3rchj <- does not work :) |
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| 2023-01-07 15:50:06 | <geekosaur> | uh, why did you use a comma there? it should be >> or <> |
| 2023-01-07 15:50:18 | <geekosaur> | probably >> since you used that for the other one |
| 2023-01-07 15:51:48 | <kora9> | geekosaur, I tried using a $ first but that didn't work. Let me try >> |
| 2023-01-07 15:52:45 | <geekosaur> | $ only works in the layoutHook, other hooks generally want <> to combine things but >> or *> will work in most of them (not manageHook though) |
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| 2023-01-07 16:05:12 | <kora9> | geekosaur, cool, thanks :) |
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| 2023-01-07 17:39:31 | MrElendig | is now known as pantsu |
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| 2023-01-07 18:05:23 | <dmn_> | I had a working (very simple) xmoand configuration for a while, recently upgraded (archlinux - a lot of packages) and it seems my config is broken. I got 2 Monitors, each on it's own GPU. X11/Xmonad is starting fine (I think). One Screen gives me the 'usual' - e.g. I can use xmonad. As soon as I move the mouse to the second physical screen I get |
| 2023-01-07 18:05:23 | <dmn_> | the 'X' pointer shown (not the mouse pointer) and no xmonad command works. My guess is the X11 config got broken - but I'm not really sure. It feels a bit like 'on the second screen xmonad' is not runnig, but X11 is. I'm unsure how to continue or what I should check. Anyone got a hint? |
| 2023-01-07 18:06:34 | <dmn_> | Also general question, if using nvidia, should I enable 'Xinerama' or not for dual screen usage? |
| 2023-01-07 18:09:42 | <geekosaur> | sounds to me like the monitors are currrently exposed as separate X11 `Screen`s. so you probably want Xinerama turned on since the same low level stuff is used with XRandR |
| 2023-01-07 18:10:43 | <geekosaur> | (if this is the case, you would nmeed to run a separate xmonad on `DISPLAY=:0.1`) |
| 2023-01-07 18:12:47 | <geekosaur> | also, it won't behave at all like you would expect, because it is a separate DISPLAY so you can't e.g. move windows between them |
| 2023-01-07 18:16:35 | <geekosaur> | if you want to test this, you can go to a shell and try `xdpyinfo -display :0.1`, if it doesn't throw an error about being unable to open the display then you're in multi-Screen mode |
| 2023-01-07 18:16:43 | <geekosaur> | sometimes called "Zaphod mode" |
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| 2023-01-07 19:15:06 | <dmn_> | geekosaur no error :) so I guess I have to figure out how to turn on xinerama :) |
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| 2023-01-07 19:30:26 | <dmn_> | geekosaur thank you. Got both screens working now. - Is there a way to check the Hz somehow? I think nvidia might be using only 1 cable for each screen, but must use two for each; Easiest to check would be checking the current resolution/hz combination per screen; sadly the on screen menu of the monitor doesn't offer that... |
| 2023-01-07 19:32:07 | <geekosaur> | `xrandr` shows the available and selected rates |
| 2023-01-07 19:33:42 | <dmn_> | I might be wrong, but I think enabling xinerma disabled xrandr - because I get now randr extension missing - googeling :) |
| 2023-01-07 19:34:31 | <geekosaur> | I don't know enough about nvidia to help there, there might be a switch to get the low level xinerama stuff (all monitors sharing the root window) plus xrandr |
| 2023-01-07 19:36:03 | <dmn_> | will try to figure out - I can get the resolution via xdpyinfo, but it feels '30Hz' ;) thank you again! |
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| 2023-01-07 20:17:19 | <HB[m]> | You can't use xinerama with xrandr |
| 2023-01-07 20:17:22 | <HB[m]> | One or the other. |
| 2023-01-07 20:17:25 | <HB[m]> | s/// |
| 2023-01-07 20:17:47 | <HB[m]> | xrandr is often better than Xinerama. |
| 2023-01-07 20:18:03 | <geekosaur> | the point is he can't find the nvidia knob to activate xrandr |
| 2023-01-07 20:18:19 | <geekosaur> | he's offered ximerama and "zaphod mode" |
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| 2023-01-07 20:42:00 | <HB[m]> | Bind\ary driver or nouveau? |
| 2023-01-07 20:42:03 | <HB[m]> | s/Bind\ary/Binary/ |
| 2023-01-07 20:43:27 | <geekosaur> | they left |
| 2023-01-07 20:43:41 | <geekosaur> | IRC doesn't keep backscroll like matrix does |
| 2023-01-07 20:44:22 | <HB[m]> | Matrix didn't how his parting/quitting on my end. Hmm |
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