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| 2023-01-06 03:27:29 | <tsandstr> | I would like to set up a layout which decorates windows with a border that looks and feels like the Windows95 window border. One aspect of this is that I would like to control many aspects of the buttons (including color, image, etc), depending on whether I am hovering or clicking on them. Is this possible in XMonad via a something already made in xmonad-contrib? Or will I have to roll a whole bunch of stuff myself? |
| 2023-01-06 03:27:29 | <tsandstr> | Any advice? |
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| 2023-01-06 12:44:01 | <xmonadtrack> | New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/792 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/792 |
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| 2023-01-06 12:54:08 | <xmonadtrack> | New branch created: pull/437 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/437 |
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| 2023-01-06 13:43:39 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | What is the current status of wayland interest for xmonad? |
| 2023-01-06 13:43:39 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | I am aware of waymonad and how the project was abandoned a couple of years ago by the maintainer, but afaik no other project has been created in the attempt to create a wayland alt to xmonad (please tell me I am wrong) |
| 2023-01-06 13:49:16 | <vrs> | that's about what I know as well |
| 2023-01-06 13:49:48 | <geekosaur> | still no alternative although someone else did pick up ongy's original waymonad work and push it a bit farther along |
| 2023-01-06 13:50:24 | <geekosaur> | wlroots, the compositor waymonad uses, has matured quite a bit since then and things might well go better at this point |
| 2023-01-06 13:50:53 | <geekosaur> | but none of us knows wayland programming; at some point we'll have to hire someone to write it for us, unless someone volumteers it |
| 2023-01-06 13:51:56 | <geekosaur> | meanwhile RH has reportedly extended Xwayland to support managing Wayland windows with an X window manager, so this may solve itself |
| 2023-01-06 14:32:23 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Interesting! |
| 2023-01-06 14:33:02 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | What would you say is a good estimate for the cost of migrating xmonad (creating an alt) to wayland? |
| 2023-01-06 14:34:25 | <geekosaur> | I have no idea, it'll depend on how different the API is (probably closer to xcb than xlib) and how closely you want to try to emulate it (some things are probably not going to work well, seems unlikely they support appName/className for example as those are for the old X resource system) |
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| 2023-01-06 14:35:24 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Just stumbled upon this: https://wayland-book.com/ and https://wayland.app/protocols/ |
| 2023-01-06 14:35:49 | <geekosaur> | just scanning through those will not be enough 🙂 |
| 2023-01-06 14:35:56 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | I know :P |
| 2023-01-06 14:38:26 | <geekosaur> | my guess is we need to talk to a Wayland-knowledgeable person (specifically the compositor/WM parts which most devs wouldn't care about) just to plot out an initial design including cost estimates |
| 2023-01-06 14:39:04 | <vrs> | hmm are there layouts for intentionally leaving some space free? what I want to do is a ThreeCol layout but it spawns the first two windows only as wide as the columns are |
| 2023-01-06 14:39:21 | <vrs> | I could do something with IfMax but there may be nicer ways |
| 2023-01-06 14:41:14 | <geekosaur> | most layouts take after Tall in that sense, using the whole screen space always. I'm not recalling any exceptions off the top of my head, ignoring stuff like Spiral |
| 2023-01-06 14:42:58 | <vrs> | Spacing/Gaps I suppose |
| 2023-01-06 14:43:24 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Link: https://discord.com/invite/hQ9XvMUjjr |
| 2023-01-06 14:43:25 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | geekosaur: I wonder if hyprland discord server would be helpful for this |
| 2023-01-06 14:45:39 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Or River WM folks on IRC |
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| 2023-01-06 15:22:01 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Not haskell folks obv. but still better than nothing |
| 2023-01-06 15:27:48 | <geekosaur> | (back shortly, will still be following via element on phone) |
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| 2023-01-06 15:31:57 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | It's alright, did the same not so long ago :P (had a walk in the snow before it disappeared) |
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| 2023-01-06 15:33:12 | <geekosaur> | I was just way overdue for a desktop reboot |
| 2023-01-06 15:33:25 | <geekosaur> | and I do all my maintenance foo on Fridays |
| 2023-01-06 15:33:39 | <geekosaur> | still have to run updates and reboots on phone and tablet |
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| 2023-01-06 15:39:30 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | <geekosaur> "I was just way overdue for a..." <- uptime? |
| 2023-01-06 15:40:18 | <geekosaur> | ddon't recall, but some components of MATE as shipped with ubuntu are fairly leaky |
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| 2023-01-06 15:55:24 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | * Oh |
| 2023-01-06 15:55:25 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | O |
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| 2023-01-06 16:04:45 | <geekosaur> | for some reason `indicator-datetime-applet` was taking up 25% of my memory |
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| 2023-01-06 16:05:03 | <geekosaur> | of all the things I'd expect to be leaky… |
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