Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2021-10-21 09:46:57 | <liskin> | :-D |
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| 2021-10-21 14:06:12 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | Have any of you guys watched any of DT's videos?, his videos helped me greatly when I was a beginner in XMonad (still am).. |
| 2021-10-21 14:06:28 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | He even explains everything in his config in one video.. |
| 2021-10-21 14:07:21 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | I mainly watched him to just get a sense of what XMonad was and what is possible with it... |
| 2021-10-21 14:13:15 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | I think he still uses the older (non-git) version of XMonad and XMonad-Contrib though |
| 2021-10-21 14:18:00 | <liskin> | FOSSHuman[m]: https://youtu.be/va-UFNDv08M?t=246 is an example of something that may relay transitive hate our way |
| 2021-10-21 14:19:08 | <liskin> | the Haskell community has managed to largely stay away from these issues, but it's a risk |
| 2021-10-21 14:20:38 | <liskin> | (transitive hate normally being called guilt by association, but we can use the proper mathematical terms here, right? :-)) |
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| 2021-10-21 14:48:08 | <Solid> | MrElendig once called him the "fox news of the *nix world" which seems accurate enough from what I've seen of the guy |
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| 2021-10-21 14:55:12 | pantsu | is now known as evilop |
| 2021-10-21 14:55:19 | <qbt> | i found several of his linux-vids to be quite uninformed, as for his political takes--he sure talks alot about it for being so against politics in the community... |
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| 2021-10-21 15:08:35 | liskin | hasn't seen enough content to go as far, and, having placed myself quite firmly in the center of the technopolitical scale, can kind of empathize with one feeling the need to denounce either of the extremes, but usually knows better to not comment (so I promise to myself to not say anything more than this) |
| 2021-10-21 15:34:56 | <mc47> | liskin: should we make ?-> a top-level function? |
| 2021-10-21 15:35:30 | <geekosaur> | hm, doesn't it need composeOne? |
| 2021-10-21 15:36:03 | <geekosaur> | or am I confused about what you're asking? |
| 2021-10-21 15:36:38 | <mc47> | I'm talking about the ppPrinters |
| 2021-10-21 15:36:59 | <mc47> | cond ?-> ppr = (asks cond >>= guard) $> ppr pp |
| 2021-10-21 15:39:49 | <liskin> | Dunno, try it and see what the pp param ends up looking like |
| 2021-10-21 15:45:51 | <mc47> | fallbackPritners would look a bit more verbose, but copiesPP would avoid redefining the function |
| 2021-10-21 15:45:58 | <mc47> | I'll write the docs first |
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| 2021-10-21 16:20:01 | <liskin> | mc47: cool, then the only question is do we like the name? :-) |
| 2021-10-21 16:21:01 | <mc47[m]> | Oh |
| 2021-10-21 16:21:26 | <mc47[m]> | I'll think of something, but I don't have nothing against it |
| 2021-10-21 16:21:57 | <geekosaur> | I already pointed to one potential problem |
| 2021-10-21 16:22:39 | <geekosaur> | hm, no, that one puts the ? in the wrong place. still, it's confusing |
| 2021-10-21 16:22:52 | <geekosaur> | (ManageHelpers composeOne uses -?>) |
| 2021-10-21 16:23:26 | <geekosaur> | something naming something something hardest problem something |
| 2021-10-21 16:41:42 | <alternateved> | I am curious, is there any reason that lineNavigation is the default navigation in X.A.Navigation2D module? |
| 2021-10-21 16:43:44 | <alternateved> | Seems that with the default lineNavigation, movement between master and two slaves windows gets stuck |
| 2021-10-21 16:45:52 | <geekosaur> | "Line navigation and Side navigation feel rather natural but may make it impossible to navigate to a given window from the current window, particularly in the floating layer. Center navigation feels less natural in certain situations but ensures that all windows can be reached without the need to involve the mouse." |
| 2021-10-21 16:46:27 | <geekosaur> | there's also a paper presenting the details of the navigation strategies: http://www.cs.dal.ca/~nzeh/xmonad/Navigation2D.pdf |
| 2021-10-21 16:46:47 | <geekosaur> | (I just verified it's not a dead link) |
| 2021-10-21 16:46:53 | <alternateved> | Whoa, what |
| 2021-10-21 16:48:15 | <Solid> | alternateved: lineNavigation shouldn't get stuck in that situation (judging solely from its docs) |
| 2021-10-21 16:48:38 | <Solid> | it might if you have gaps (we had that situation here a while ago) |
| 2021-10-21 16:48:49 | <alternateved> | I would need to test it once again, since I stopped using it. |
| 2021-10-21 16:49:05 | <alternateved> | But yeah, with gaps (created by Spacing) I had that issue. |
| 2021-10-21 16:49:39 | <Solid> | the docs mention sideNavigation is being more intuitive for X.L.Spacing stuff |
| 2021-10-21 16:50:00 | <alternateved> | Ah, I see. So I guess that is my bias. |
| 2021-10-21 16:50:37 | <Solid> | to be fair, one does have to look at the docs of the individual strategies |
| 2021-10-21 16:51:25 | <Solid> | (and while I think that that module has excellent documentation, a quick list of all the strategies and their uses at the top level may be nice) |
| 2021-10-21 16:51:50 | <alternateved> | I guess explicit mention of the lineNavigation not working so well with Spacing would be good |
| 2021-10-21 16:51:55 | <geekosaur> | there's already a list at the top, it just doesn't really say when to use them |
| 2021-10-21 16:52:39 | <geekosaur> | and maybe instead of italics they should be links to the specific strategies |
| 2021-10-21 17:02:00 | <geekosaur> | ok, filed an issue. whether we want to address it for 0.17 given the short time we have is another question |
| 2021-10-21 17:06:01 | <alternateved> | Oh, didn't expect that! Thanks. |
| 2021-10-21 17:07:40 | <geekosaur> | good docs are always a good thing. Navigation2D is one of the better ones, but there is clearly room for improvement |
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| 2021-10-21 18:20:16 | <Solid> | liskin: how come some people get that ugly github.noreply email when they merge something and others do not? |
| 2021-10-21 18:21:04 | <geekosaur> | depends on whether github can associate your email address with your github identity, I think |
| 2021-10-21 18:21:38 | <geekosaur> | so I get mail for everything except actions I take |
| 2021-10-21 18:35:32 | <liskin> | Solid: not sure but probably a privacy setting? |
| 2021-10-21 18:36:20 | <geekosaur> | you can also unsubscribe from emails about a repo |
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| 2021-10-21 18:48:14 | <Solid> | oh indeed it seems to be privacy settings |
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| 2021-10-21 20:14:43 | <mc47> | I think we could merge #605 this weekend |
| 2021-10-21 20:15:14 | <mc47> | (I only have a small concern and a medium concern, and I need someone to proof-read the docs because I'm half asleep) |
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| 2021-10-21 21:32:49 | <liskin> | mc47: I'm half asleep too (and half drunk), but I'll try to think about your concerns tomorrow :-) |
| 2021-10-21 21:35:53 | <geekosaur> | did you document your concerns somewhere? or do I have to reload the whole discussion instead of just the docs diffs? (which seem ok to me) |
| 2021-10-21 21:36:24 | geekosaur | has been watching a europa league whiparound all afternoon :) |
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