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| 2024-02-10 11:00:57 | <xacktm> | who knew that xmonad can fail to restart because you have too many open windows :S was baffled for a few hours, but I like the new Ewmh Full Screen feature! Going to explore more of the update soon :) |
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| 2024-02-10 14:54:37 | <L29Ah> | xacktm: how many windows is that? i routinely have 100-200 and it works fine |
| 2024-02-10 15:08:41 | <Solid> | 200 windows? Oo |
| 2024-02-10 15:11:22 | <L29Ah> | Solid: on 15+ workspaces, and the most populated ones are Tabbed, so not that many |
| 2024-02-10 15:16:16 | <Solid> | I already get confused when I have, like, 20 open windows 🙃 |
| 2024-02-10 15:18:40 | <L29Ah> | then you're not using workspaces enough :> |
| 2024-02-10 15:19:37 | <vrs> | I have 30 workspaces but most of them are unoccupied |
| 2024-02-10 15:19:52 | <vrs> | (30-ish - I don't count them) |
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| 2024-02-10 16:15:14 | <liskin> | L29Ah: what sort of windows are those? Terminals, browsers? Or perhaps chat windows? |
| 2024-02-10 16:15:40 | <liskin> | I'm probably also just a double digit window user myself |
| 2024-02-10 16:16:26 | <L29Ah> | liskin: mostly chats and terminals |
| 2024-02-10 16:17:11 | <L29Ah> | my xmpp client dominates it at 70 windows rn |
| 2024-02-10 16:18:16 | <liskin> | L29Ah: oh, right, I suspected that might be the case. What XMPP client is that, btw? |
| 2024-02-10 16:18:46 | <L29Ah> | liskin: tkabber |
| 2024-02-10 16:25:46 | <liskin> | hm, I just had an idea how to make it easier for us to maintain a social media presence (as in, Twitter-ish, Fediverse something) |
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| 2024-02-10 16:26:17 | <liskin> | if we had a bridge/bot in an IRC/Matrix channel where a group of us could just reply to messages, that would be super easy and convenient |
| 2024-02-10 16:26:28 | <liskin> | the only problem being that I'm unable to find an implementation of this |
| 2024-02-10 16:27:00 | <liskin> | which is quite baffling, because obviously that's the only sane way to use a social media platform, right? |
| 2024-02-10 16:28:55 | <L29Ah> | those i use are gated to my xmpp, but that's one-to-many solution, not many-to-many you desire with a channel |
| 2024-02-10 16:29:26 | <L29Ah> | there are some bridges but mostly for sane-ish IM platforms |
| 2024-02-10 16:30:14 | <L29Ah> | personally i don't see much value in *itter presence given you already have a website and public support venues |
| 2024-02-10 16:31:17 | <liskin> | using a sane-ish IM platform instead would not necessarily be a blocker - please do feel free to point me to any such bridges :-) |
| 2024-02-10 16:31:47 | <L29Ah> | matterbridge |
| 2024-02-10 16:32:00 | <liskin> | re value - I think there's a growing number of people who don't use RSS any more, so having a microblogging presence makes it easier for them to follow our announcements |
| 2024-02-10 16:32:19 | <L29Ah> | microblogging news is solved with a shell script |
| 2024-02-10 16:32:33 | <liskin> | although perhaps those RSS-ignorant people aren't xmonad users anyway? :-) |
| 2024-02-10 16:33:09 | L29Ah | isn't subscribed to xmonad's RSS because his distro maintainers are doing decent enough job |
| 2024-02-10 16:33:19 | <liskin> | well, yeah, but if you only broadcast news and ignore all replies, you are being a bit of a dick |
| 2024-02-10 16:33:35 | <liskin> | makes your behaviour equivalent to a corporate PR department |
| 2024-02-10 16:33:49 | <liskin> | I don't want to act anything like that :-D |
| 2024-02-10 16:34:45 | <liskin> | so the next best thing is that the maintainers all have the credentials for that specific social media account, but in our case, neither geekosaur nor Solid are going to be checking it, and I have enough shit on my plate right now that I won't be doing it either |
| 2024-02-10 16:35:01 | <liskin> | but if we had a simple IRC channel that would just solve everything… I think :-) |
| 2024-02-10 16:35:18 | <liskin> | (I mean, assuming it's a problem worth solving) |
| 2024-02-10 16:36:07 | <liskin> | (anyway, thanks for engaging in my little brainstorming!) |
| 2024-02-10 17:22:18 | <geekosaur> | L29Ah, we already have a matterbridge |
| 2024-02-10 17:23:01 | <geekosaur> | I could probably extend it to other platforms, but I'm currently investigating having the HF take this one over since I'm bridging for a bunch of Haskell-related channels |
| 2024-02-10 18:51:02 | <fizzie> | Used to use BitlBee to plumb Twitter into an IRC client before you-know-what. Convenient to get it in the same place. |
| 2024-02-10 18:53:14 | <fizzie> | (It doesn't feed into an existing IRC network, though, but is an IRC server instead. And it might be a little dead, development-wise.) |
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| 2024-02-10 23:25:53 | <xacktm> | L29Ah: surprisingly not that much, only around ~25. just passing --restart didn't do it, I had to quit-and-relog X server then --restart worked again |
| 2024-02-10 23:26:41 | <xacktm> | but I did have to change some deprecated configs in between so maybe that was the blocker, idk |
| 2024-02-10 23:27:27 | <xacktm> | I just saw somewhere online that the whole state of something is passed as an argument to xmonad on restart and sometimes it's too big and fails silently |
| 2024-02-10 23:31:40 | <geekosaur> | that changed several versions ago, the state is stored in a temporary file and that file is passed on restart |
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| 2024-02-10 23:45:33 | <xacktm> | ok, maybe it wasn't that issue then, since I was previously running 0.17.2 according to audit logs. hopefully it was random and I don't come across it anymore |
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| 2024-02-10 23:48:39 | <geekosaur> | (the change was in 0.13 fwiw) |
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