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2024-02-04 23:40:28 <liskin> hm, if I reserve the Rapperswil-Jona youth hostel now, it's £100 for the two nights and I can cancel 14 days before ZuriHac if I need to
2024-02-04 23:40:36 <liskin> seems wise to just do it :-)
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2024-02-05 06:19:40 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> Yes, I also already have something pre-booked
2024-02-05 06:19:47 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> The hype is growing :)
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2024-02-05 10:01:02 <liskin> Can't buy train tickets yet though. That's a bit of a bummer
2024-02-05 10:01:33 <liskin> (I'm sure flights can be bought just fine...)
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2024-02-06 03:18:13 <beastwick> Hi I am trying to get new windows to open to the right of the master pane. I followed some docs, but no matter what - it seems to have no effect. https://pastebin.com/CEpHuDQJ
2024-02-06 03:18:22 <beastwick> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Hooks-InsertPosition.html
2024-02-06 03:18:48 <beastwick> , manageHook = insertPosition Above Older
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2024-02-06 04:22:28 <[Leary]> beastwick: That doesn't change how windows are inserted (Above is default), it only stops them from taking focus. Try using `Below` (and perhaps `Newer`).
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2024-02-06 15:38:53 <beastwick> I don't think that had much effect
2024-02-06 15:39:05 <beastwick> are there any docs that explain xmonad hooks and how to set them up?
2024-02-06 15:40:00 <liskin> beastwick: https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib-0.18.0.9/XMonad-Doc-Extending.html is probably a good place to start
2024-02-06 15:40:09 <beastwick> thanks
2024-02-06 16:15:27 <beastwick> My haskell is always being challenged, lol. How does one pull out an id from an X id? https://pastebin.com/kZYdsWEz
2024-02-06 16:15:46 <geekosaur> >>= but you have to put it back afterward
2024-02-06 16:16:09 <beastwick> really?
2024-02-06 16:17:11 <geekosaur> gets (W.screen . W.current . windowset) >>= toggleWS
2024-02-06 16:17:14 <geekosaur> and yes, really
2024-02-06 16:17:20 <geekosaur> @where iotut
2024-02-06 16:17:20 <lambdabot> https://www.vex.net/~trebla/haskell/IO.xhtml
2024-02-06 16:17:43 <beastwick> something like (workspacesOn $ withWindowSet $ return . W.screen . W.current) >>= toggleWS?
2024-02-06 16:17:58 <geekosaur> oh, sorry, missed workspacesOn
2024-02-06 16:18:12 <geekosaur> withWindowSet needs to be run in X also
2024-02-06 16:18:30 <beastwick> wow this is confusing :(
2024-02-06 16:18:39 <beastwick> run in X, means run in the Xmonad program?
2024-02-06 16:18:57 <geekosaur> in the X monad (that is, its type is X something)
2024-02-06 16:19:07 <geekosaur> read the iotut I linked
2024-02-06 16:19:15 <beastwick> is a monad like a container for the X program?
2024-02-06 16:20:09 <geekosaur> a monad is a program, sort of
2024-02-06 16:21:21 <beastwick> , ((modMask, xK_p) (gets (workspacesOn (W.screen . W.current . windowset)) >>= toggleWS) sadly complaining about tab character elsewhere in the program after this change
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2024-02-06 17:55:22 <beastwick> hold on, the X I am seeing is referring to Xmonad right?
2024-02-06 17:55:30 <beastwick> or is that something the compiler is using as a placeholder
2024-02-06 18:09:32 <geekosaur> X is IO plus xmonad's internal configuration and state
2024-02-06 18:10:11 <geekosaur> newtype X a = StateT XState (ReaderT XConf IO) a
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