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| 2022-04-03 04:32:09 | <anon_kun600[m]> | geekosaur: I only used a small example config with some explanations for how everything worked, it seems its a little outdated since I get some error on startup, also with errors I have to highlight the text to make it appear since I guess I need to change the basic color but other than that it seems to work. |
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| 2022-04-03 05:32:23 | <abastro[m]> | I wonder why there are not so many tutorials pointing out that PATH needs to be set up. I used to struggle a lot at some errors, and it turns out to be from "xmonad not on PATH" issues. |
| 2022-04-03 05:37:35 | <Solid> | installing with stack or cabal puts the xmonad executable into a non-standard (i.e., probably not already in your $PATH) directory |
| 2022-04-03 05:37:55 | <Solid> | many display managers have trouble finding it in that case |
| 2022-04-03 05:44:03 | <abastro[m]> | Indeed, and I could not find the help around that |
| 2022-04-03 05:44:42 | <abastro[m]> | In fact, while currently I have it solved, when I was wondering and searching I could not find the culprit for months. Is this documented somewhere? |
| 2022-04-03 05:47:55 | <Solid> | it should be in INSTALL |
| 2022-04-03 05:55:37 | <abastro[m]> | Oh, it says that "Make sure to add that directory to your $PATH". Tho it does not specify how. Given how startup shell is different from terminal emulators, wouldn't it better to specify it with more details? |
| 2022-04-03 05:57:42 | <abastro[m]> | Like putting command to update $PATH in `.xsession` |
| 2022-04-03 05:58:55 | <abastro[m]> | For me, `xmonad` worked well in terminal emulators because `.bashrc` took care of it. However, it does not apply to .xsessions |
| 2022-04-03 06:05:27 | <Solid> | I think it goes into quite some detail in https://xmonad.org/INSTALL.html#make-xmonad-your-window-manager |
| 2022-04-03 06:05:31 | <Solid> | what do you think is missing? |
| 2022-04-03 06:09:30 | <abastro[m]> | IIRC, simply `exec xmonad` does not work there. You need to manually change PATH variable beforehand. |
| 2022-04-03 06:09:50 | <abastro[m]> | PATH update at `~/.bashrc` does not apply there. |
| 2022-04-03 06:11:25 | <Solid> | I see |
| 2022-04-03 06:11:41 | <Solid> | I don't use a display manager but if you want to open a PR with a doc fix that would be greatly appreciated! |
| 2022-04-03 06:18:57 | <abastro[m]> | Yep, perhaps it only applies my case though, so I'll first put in the case about my setup (ubuntu - gdm) first. |
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| 2022-04-03 07:29:17 | <iqubic> | How does one set their default mouse cursor when using XMonad? |
| 2022-04-03 07:35:00 | <Yehoshua> | With xsetroot |
| 2022-04-03 07:36:20 | <iqubic> | Thanks. |
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| 2022-04-03 07:41:25 | <iqubic> | Is it fine to just put an xsetroot in my .xinitrc, or do I need to do something more fancy for xmonad to pick up my new cursor? |
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| 2022-04-03 09:47:39 | <Solid[m]> | you can just put it into your xinitrc |
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| 2022-04-03 10:05:37 | <geekosaur> | abastro[m], how you set up $PATH depends on how your session is set up and to some extent on what system you're on; it rapidly becomes a bit of a mess |
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| 2022-04-03 10:57:40 | <geekosaur> | anon_kun600[m], you can pastebin your config and we can look it over |
| 2022-04-03 10:57:44 | <geekosaur> | @where paste |
| 2022-04-03 10:57:44 | <lambdabot> | Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com |
| 2022-04-03 10:59:45 | <MrElendig> | iqubic: consider using XMonad.Util.Cursor |
| 2022-04-03 13:46:09 | <Ether[m]> | How do I toggle monocle with Mod and f? |
| 2022-04-03 13:46:46 | <Ether[m]> | Rather than Mod-f for full screen I would like to use monocle layout. |
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| 2022-04-03 13:58:10 | <mekeor[m]> | hello fellows :) |
| 2022-04-03 13:58:39 | <mekeor[m]> | my XMonad.Prompt won't show up anymore. how can i debug this? |
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| 2022-04-03 14:08:21 | <Solid> | mekeor[m]: check your xsession.errors or similar (though when the prompt doesn't show up at all it's almost always a font issue) |
| 2022-04-03 14:08:31 | <Solid> | Ether[m]: what's the monocle layout? |
| 2022-04-03 14:36:50 | <mekeor[m]> | Solid: i set `XPC { font = "xft:Hack:pixelsize=12", ... }` and i have the Hack font installed as confirmed with fc-list. also, my ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log does not show any errors when i try to invoke my prompt :/ |
| 2022-04-03 14:39:09 | mekeor[m] | wonders why files called "-no-pie" keep occuring in ~/.xmonad |
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| 2022-04-03 14:41:30 | <vrs> | proto-indoeuropean locale sounds unlikely |
| 2022-04-03 14:44:34 | <mekeor[m]> | ah, it was occuring every time i ran ~/.xmonad/build myself manually -- without passing xmonad-x86_64-linux as first cli-parameter |
| 2022-04-03 14:45:18 | <mekeor[m]> | anyway, my prompt is still not showing up. hm |
| 2022-04-03 14:49:53 | <geekosaur> | Xorg.0.log won't be the place to look, that's the server log and xft: designates a client-sidefont |
| 2022-04-03 14:50:04 | <geekosaur> | you want your session log (often ~/.xsession-errors) |
| 2022-04-03 15:21:00 | <mekeor[m]> | thank you. for me, my logs were actually stdout because i call `xinit` directly. it stated that there was a problem with my xpc-config. instead of defining from scratch myself, i switched to update the default implementation `def` per update-syntax. it works now, yay! :) |
| 2022-04-03 15:22:13 | <geekosaur> | it didn't tell you what the problem was? |
| 2022-04-03 15:30:43 | <mekeor[m]> | it did. that my xpc-config was missing a field and it also told me the fields name :) |
| 2022-04-03 15:31:23 | <Solid> | so it was a compilation error? |
| 2022-04-03 15:32:02 | <Solid> | oh, you might be able to construct partial records if fields are non-strict |
| 2022-04-03 15:32:09 | <Solid> | which would then fail at runtime |
| 2022-04-03 15:33:09 | <abastro[m]> | Oh.. haskell records.. |
| 2022-04-03 15:35:43 | <Solid> | are you going to elaborate on that or...? :) |
| 2022-04-03 15:39:03 | <abastro[m]> | * haskell records.. why do you let us to shoot on foot by allowing undefined fields |
| 2022-04-03 15:39:26 | <Solid> | there's probably at least a warning emitted there |
| 2022-04-03 15:39:37 | <Solid> | (definitely with -Wall) |
| 2022-04-03 15:39:49 | <Solid> | but most people just compiling their xmonad configs don't care too much about that ;) |
| 2022-04-03 15:41:40 | <abastro[m]> | Yep, indeed |
| 2022-04-03 15:41:40 | <abastro[m]> | Even -W is easy to miss for average user |
| 2022-04-03 15:41:43 | <mekeor[m]> | Solid: exactly, fields were non strict. |
| 2022-04-03 15:43:11 | mekeor[m] | adds -Wall to build-script |
| 2022-04-03 15:44:39 | <abastro[m]> | I wonder if -Werror would help or undermine |
| 2022-04-03 15:44:59 | <Solid> | I've wondered whether we should add -XStrictData to the build options a few times |
| 2022-04-03 15:45:10 | <Solid> | surely any breakage that it would cause would be a bug |
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| 2022-04-03 17:05:01 | <geekosaur> | Solid, no actually. we already have a few cases where we warn people to use hacky workarounds for strict fields because you end up with a cycle otherwise (see for example https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Util-EZConfig.html#v:checkKeymap) |
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| 2022-04-03 17:30:06 | <Solid> | huh interesting |
| 2022-04-03 17:30:27 | <Solid> | but I don't suppose we have many mutually recursive fields in contrib |
| 2022-04-03 17:31:15 | <geekosaur> | none by default, but you do have to watch out for that with the strict fields |
| 2022-04-03 17:31:38 | <geekosaur> | (note that strict is only t WHNF which is why a simple `return ()` works as a loop-breaker) |
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