Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
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| 2022-12-08 08:13:53 | <_Ity[m]> | <ChaoticMist[m]> "Wish I had a video or image to..." <- A video would indeed be helpful, I think |
| 2022-12-08 08:14:18 | <_Ity[m]> | What's the difference between fading and dimming? |
| 2022-12-08 08:14:40 | <_Ity[m]> | I also gotta say that the hyprland website looks stunning |
| 2022-12-08 08:14:44 | _Ity[m] | uploaded an image: (57KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/midov.pl/aogeyKXBDYWDXmNHkTFgCNwb/Screenshot_20221208-091331_Tor%20Browser.png > |
| 2022-12-08 08:15:53 | <_Ity[m]> | <a href="https://hyprland.org/">logo</a> |
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| 2022-12-08 08:23:40 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | <_Ity[m]> "I also gotta say that the..." <- Imo, we need to get xmonad's site redesigned |
| 2022-12-08 08:24:05 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | <_Ity[m]> "What's the difference between..." <- The tl;dr is that it becomes darker + animation |
| 2022-12-08 08:24:10 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | And animations is not something that xmonad currently has afaik |
| 2022-12-08 08:27:33 | <_Ity[m]> | Oh, so the same thing just animated? |
| 2022-12-08 08:28:27 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | And it's darker rather than transparent |
| 2022-12-08 08:33:33 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | asked for a video on discord, will share when i have it |
| 2022-12-08 08:33:50 | <_Ity[m]> | Hmm |
| 2022-12-08 08:33:57 | <_Ity[m]> | Not sure if you can do darker |
| 2022-12-08 08:35:08 | <_Ity[m]> | After all Xmonad is a WM while Hyprland is a Wayland Compositor. fadeInactive uses a nonstandard proposal to EWMH (_NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY) which contains the alpha of the window, possibly read by an X compositor if one is running |
| 2022-12-08 08:35:16 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | It's more like a shadow being cast over the application than it going darker |
| 2022-12-08 08:36:02 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Yeah.. I noticed that from the description of the module |
| 2022-12-08 08:36:31 | <_Ity[m]> | You'd need another prop to set onto windows read by a supporting compositor, or patch the compositor yourself |
| 2022-12-08 08:36:49 | <_Ity[m]> | * compositor yourself & write a module to set the right prop |
| 2022-12-08 08:36:53 | <_Ity[m]> | * compositor yourself (or write one) & write a module to set the right prop |
| 2022-12-08 08:36:57 | <_Ity[m]> | * compositor yourself (or write one from scratch) & write a module to set the right prop |
| 2022-12-08 08:37:51 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | I guess I'll retain the fadeInactive with a lower value for now 😅 |
| 2022-12-08 08:38:45 | <_Ity[m]> | I wonder if I can impl it in my X compositor 🤔 |
| 2022-12-08 08:39:23 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Going to browse YT for a video, brb |
| 2022-12-08 08:41:01 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | _Ity: not the best example (bcs of colors) but look at this video: https://youtu.be/KKo-4ZuozUA?t=44 |
| 2022-12-08 08:41:20 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Notice that current window = birghter, remaining = darker bcs of dim |
| 2022-12-08 08:42:17 | <_Ity[m]> | I see |
| 2022-12-08 08:43:27 | <_Ity[m]> | Is that Russian? |
| 2022-12-08 08:43:44 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Not sure, found the video randomly |
| 2022-12-08 08:43:55 | <_Ity[m]> | Oh ighty |
| 2022-12-08 08:44:05 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | I think it is though |
| 2022-12-08 08:44:53 | <_Ity[m]> | I could probably do the dimming in my X compositor, although only the Xrender backend is usable currently so no blur and stuff |
| 2022-12-08 08:45:10 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | I wonder if they used parts of picom to achieve this |
| 2022-12-08 08:45:18 | <_Ity[m]> | I doubt that |
| 2022-12-08 08:45:40 | <_Ity[m]> | I believe tho that picom might have a feature to dim unfocused windows |
| 2022-12-08 08:45:51 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Let me check |
| 2022-12-08 08:46:20 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | I think you are right |
| 2022-12-08 08:46:37 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | --inactive-dim tVALUE |
| 2022-12-08 08:46:37 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Dim inactive windows. (0.0 - 1.0, defaults to 0.0) |
| 2022-12-08 08:46:47 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Nvm then, we opt for picom in this situation |
| 2022-12-08 09:00:07 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Apparently, hyprland and picom has same effects when it comes to dimming the window |
| 2022-12-08 09:04:58 | <_Ity[m]> | Picom animates it? |
| 2022-12-08 09:05:05 | <_Ity[m]> | Interesting |
| 2022-12-08 09:05:30 | <_Ity[m]> | I am trying to implement dimming in my X compositor. It's fun like always, I am getting pulsating grey instead 🤦♂️ |
| 2022-12-08 09:20:46 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | <_Ity[m]> "Picom animates it?" <- No animations. I wonder if forks does that though |
| 2022-12-08 09:21:01 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | <_Ity[m]> "I am trying to implement dimming..." <- Interesting! |
| 2022-12-08 09:21:10 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | I need to increase my level of knowledge to be able to do this |
| 2022-12-08 09:21:17 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Hopefully after I've finished my math course |
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| 2022-12-08 10:00:59 | <_Ity[m]> | X11 programming has very little to do with math |
| 2022-12-08 10:01:09 | <_Ity[m]> | And more to do with infinite patience |
| 2022-12-08 10:01:46 | <_Ity[m]> | And reversing complicated code bases |
| 2022-12-08 10:02:06 | <_Ity[m]> | Your only docs is other people's source code |
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| 2022-12-08 10:44:54 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | <_Ity[m]> "X11 programming has very..." <- Earlier comment might've been misleading.. I am studying math and that is not related to the current conversation just intended to display the lack of time to tinker/learn how x11 works :) |
| 2022-12-08 10:45:07 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | <_Ity[m]> "Your only docs is other people's..." <- That's like NixOS.. which I happen to be using LOL |
| 2022-12-08 10:50:14 | <_Ity[m]> | <ChaoticMist[m]> "That's like NixOS.. which I..." <- Haha, it's worse than NixOS |
| 2022-12-08 10:50:22 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Oh crap.. |
| 2022-12-08 10:50:27 | <_Ity[m]> | Since Nix at least has some sense of design |
| 2022-12-08 10:50:31 | <_Ity[m]> | Xlib is just legacy |
| 2022-12-08 10:50:37 | <_Ity[m]> | * X is just legacy |
| 2022-12-08 10:50:47 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | That is indeed correct and there are most often short description of lib and whatnot |
| 2022-12-08 10:50:57 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Oh |
| 2022-12-08 10:51:07 | <_Ity[m]> | Why is this like that? No clue! Nobody knows anymore since everyone that knew is dead! |
| 2022-12-08 10:51:19 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | SHIT |
| 2022-12-08 10:51:19 | <_Ity[m]> | <ChaoticMist[m]> "Earlier comment might've been..." <- Ooh |
| 2022-12-08 10:51:37 | <_Ity[m]> | _Ity[m]: And the only thing they've left behind is some C code nobody dares touch |
| 2022-12-08 10:51:44 | <_Ity[m]> | How's math? |
| 2022-12-08 10:51:45 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Well.. when are we doing a new spin of xmonad but in wayland? (cannot call it waymonad, that name is cursed) |
| 2022-12-08 10:51:56 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | _Ity[m]: Lovely! xD |
| 2022-12-08 10:52:08 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | No /s, I simply love math :P |
| 2022-12-08 10:52:28 | <_Ity[m]> | Nice! What's a monoid in the monoidal category of endofunctors with functor composition as the product called |
| 2022-12-08 10:52:34 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | _Ity[m]: I honestly don't get why no one dared to write a wayland like setup earlier |
| 2022-12-08 10:52:43 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | _Ity[m]: A box of boxes ;) |
| 2022-12-08 10:52:50 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | And I am not studying category theory btw |
| 2022-12-08 10:52:53 | <_Ity[m]> | ChaoticMist[m]: Well, I don't like Wayland personally |
| 2022-12-08 10:53:01 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | How come? |
| 2022-12-08 10:53:07 | <_Ity[m]> | ChaoticMist[m]: Cat is pretty important imo |
| 2022-12-08 10:53:14 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | 100$ |
| 2022-12-08 10:53:17 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | * 100% |
| 2022-12-08 10:53:18 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Bruh |
| 2022-12-08 10:53:18 | <_Ity[m]> | Ain't it like the foundation of current mathematics |
| 2022-12-08 10:53:33 | <_Ity[m]> | Like instead of set theory |
| 2022-12-08 10:53:39 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Not only that, it helps you understand a lot of things that appears to be unreleated but is somehow related |
| 2022-12-08 10:53:53 | <_Ity[m]> | I like Cat but it's pretty hard |
| 2022-12-08 10:54:02 | <_Ity[m]> | I only got some basics |
| 2022-12-08 10:54:19 | <_Ity[m]> | And still don't quite understand most of it |
| 2022-12-08 10:54:35 | <_Ity[m]> | I do know enough to make dumb ur mom jokes tho! |
| 2022-12-08 10:54:46 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | I most likely don't know what you are not understanding, but do share the names of those topics with me |
| 2022-12-08 10:54:57 | <_Ity[m]> | Courtesy of Unhelpful facts about category theory et al. |
| 2022-12-08 10:55:06 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | I like to read about maths whenever I get the oppurtunity and unfortunately I do not have a large crew since I am mostly self taught |
| 2022-12-08 10:55:16 | <_Ity[m]> | I am also self taught |
| 2022-12-08 10:55:21 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Nice! xD |
| 2022-12-08 10:55:24 | <_Ity[m]> | Tho I mostly do geometry related things |
| 2022-12-08 10:55:31 | <_Ity[m]> | Since I mostly do CG |
| 2022-12-08 10:55:36 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | _Ity[m]: r/mathmemes is getting there |
| 2022-12-08 10:55:37 | <_Ity[m]> | And only recently got into abstract math |
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