Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
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| 2023-02-23 03:44:51 | <HB[m]> | Don't people use Ubuntu here? |
| 2023-02-23 03:45:00 | <HB[m]> | Maybe I figured they wanted to find a fast mirror or something. |
| 2023-02-23 03:45:31 | <HB[m]> | But other than that, it doesn't have anything to do with it. Just to find a fast mirror, and maybe download Xmoand faster 🙂 |
| 2023-02-23 03:45:56 | <HB[m]> | Debian has netselect-apt which prases the debian.org/mirrors file and tests each from your location to see which is fastest |
| 2023-02-23 03:46:16 | <HB[m]> | Ubuntu didn't have one like it so I made one. I thought maybe some ubuntu users here might could find it useful. |
| 2023-02-23 03:46:26 | <HB[m]> | My apologies if it's not good to share that here. |
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| 2023-02-23 03:47:28 | <HB[m]> | Thing with us Autistic people, we don't socialize much. |
| 2023-02-23 03:47:59 | <HB[m]> | But then when we try to, we kind of get questioned about it and kind of get reprimanded about it so then we don't socialize again for months at a time. |
| 2023-02-23 03:48:20 | <HB[m]> | Some people are very sensitive, and just a question with a word 'exactly' gives it that ... tone... that is just unpleasant. |
| 2023-02-23 03:48:40 | <HB[m]> | I mean, I just shared it beacuse I thought it would be useful to someone |
| 2023-02-23 03:48:50 | <HB[m]> | And here' youre questioning it in a sarcastic like manner and it has made me feel really bad already. |
| 2023-02-23 03:49:23 | <HB[m]> | So, walking on egg shells. Because you never know when someone is going to dislike what you say and jump on you for it. |
| 2023-02-23 03:49:52 | <HB[m]> | So before I feel worse and have a mental breakdown again, I'm going to go crawl in my little hole again and not show my face. Cheers. |
| 2023-02-23 03:51:12 | <HB[m]> | God frobid an autistic man share something enthusisastically. Sigh. Rejection and hatred and put down and rejection and ... where and when is gonna be my time to make a friend in this life who doesn't question me on everything and just is a friend and supports. When? After I die? |
| 2023-02-23 03:51:25 | <HB[m]> | Might as well die then. |
| 2023-02-23 03:53:11 | <HB[m]> | My most sincere and deepest apologies for offending you so much with my sharing of a useful tool someone using Ubuntu here might find useful. I feel horrible right now... you can't even imagine how you just made me feel. All I wanted to do was to just be friendly with people and share something. |
| 2023-02-23 03:54:39 | <HB[m]> | Crying again. Sigh. I can't understand why people do this. I just will never understand why people do this hurtful stuff. I gotta go call someone for support now. Sigh. |
| 2023-02-23 03:54:57 | <HB[m]> | Go on, ban me if you want to, since I made such a horrible blunder. |
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| 2023-02-23 05:22:15 | <galactic_starfis> | take a chill pill, it wasn't a big accusation or threat, or insult |
| 2023-02-23 05:22:52 | <galactic_starfis> | geekosaur simply was suggesting that you might find more luck with your solution in a more Ubuntu focused channel, or an offtopic one |
| 2023-02-23 05:23:37 | <galactic_starfis> | I-for one, use nixOS, and so that tool (while I'm sure very useful) isn't of much use to me, and consequently the same goes for others on other distros |
| 2023-02-23 05:24:13 | <galactic_starfis> | so, cool tool, no one was attacking you, next time just try to keep Ubuntu stuff in Ubuntu channels, xmonad stuff in xmonad ones, etc |
| 2023-02-23 05:24:41 | <galactic_starfis> | it's really not that big a deal, just some tips to help you, moving forward 👍 |
| 2023-02-23 05:25:28 | <galactic_starfis> | anyway, hope you're feeling better 🍄 HB 🌿: |
| 2023-02-23 05:39:17 | <mazte[m]> | Ditto |
| 2023-02-23 05:42:45 | <mazte[m]> | 🍄 HB 🌿: Feel free to ask in what way things are meant. I'm sure that most of us will be glad to elaborate — no worries |
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| 2023-02-23 06:48:47 | <Solid[m]> | liskin: ah, I also just noticed: only the user mirrored from IRC (which I'm not sure I can even access) has moderator rights, not my actual matrix account |
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| 2023-02-23 08:51:33 | <liskin> | Solid[m]: that is indeed pointless, I wonder if I did that manually or whether the bridge got it automatically from you being a chanop at some point |
| 2023-02-23 08:51:56 | <liskin> | Solid[m]: anyway, slot-:matrix.org is now an admin |
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| 2023-02-23 11:44:23 | <geekosaur> | the bridge tracks it, afaict. but it still distinguishes between irc-side and matrix-side |
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| 2023-02-23 13:03:07 | <geekosaur[m]> | blegh. sent something irc-side that never made it across to matrix |
| 2023-02-23 13:03:13 | <geekosaur[m]> | but this went to irc |
| 2023-02-23 13:03:31 | <geekosaur[m]> | "the bridge tracks it, afaict. but it still distinguishes between irc-side and matrix-side" |
| 2023-02-23 13:07:27 | <geekosaur[m]> | 🍄 HB 🌿: my point was simply that this is not an Ubuntu channel. and random links (which is what it looked like IRC-side) are generally not so hot an idea. that said, I understand #ubuntu is not the friendliest of places. |
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| 2023-02-23 14:41:18 | <Solid[m]> | liskin works like a charm, thanks :) |
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| 2023-02-23 16:35:54 | <nexilva[m]> | "Thanks for sharing." ... Or just not say anything at all. I maybe the odd one out but literally no one needed to say anything to him about it other than this. It assumes that he has not shared it in the Ubuntu channel. This also assumes that no one here uses Ubuntu and won't find this useful at all. Lecturing him on whether this is an Ubuntu channel or not was very unproductive. A simple, "Thanks for sharing" or staying silent would have |
| 2023-02-23 16:35:54 | <nexilva[m]> | been best. |
| 2023-02-23 16:38:59 | <nexilva[m]> | Even if it did seem like a random link to you, let's say for a minute, isn't he one of the community? Doesn't he contribute to Xmonad KDE patching etc? You couldn't let that slide and thought it was more appropriate to lecture him? I just want us to be more mindful of our behaviors and irritations. If a random link annoys you, don't take it out on someone else. When you phrase something like "how exactly..." that gives it a sort of |
| 2023-02-23 16:38:59 | <nexilva[m]> | hostility and that can be easily picked up on by emotionally sensitive people. |
| 2023-02-23 16:40:07 | <nexilva[m]> | Work time. Have a good day. There is no need for discussion so please don't highlight me about this. Cheers. |
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| 2023-02-23 16:51:26 | <mazte[m]> | "literally no one needed to say anything to him about it other than this" |
| 2023-02-23 16:51:26 | <mazte[m]> | While I agree with 99% of what you've said, I believe there's many healthy ways of communicating whether some topic is relevant. There's nothing wrong with that, just with how it's communicated. |
| 2023-02-23 16:55:05 | <mazte[m]> | s/99/98/ |
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| 2023-02-23 18:12:24 | <Solid> | People, please keep it on-topic |
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| 2023-02-23 18:14:04 | <Solid> | and let's agree that calling "what exactly does that have to do with xmonad?" is in no way "lecturing" someonew, nor is it particularly hostile |
| 2023-02-23 18:15:16 | <Solid> | (and yes I fully realise that I'm contributing to the noise now, but I think it's tremendously unfair to geekosaur to frame the situation like this) |
| 2023-02-23 18:19:30 | <mazte[m]> | I can see how it can be interpreted as hostile by someone who is emotionally sensitive, as they've described. However, I also agree that the way they've posed it is quite uncharitable to geekosaur; Ironically enough, it can easily come across as hostile. I think it would be good to recognize the general situation as a miscommunication to simply move on and learn from it, as that's what it seemed to be anyway. |
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| 2023-02-23 18:42:16 | <Solid[m]> | Mh, that's a good take I think |
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