Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
| 2022-09-09 05:32:08 | <Solid> | (They are sort of on the edge of "here is my setup" posts) |
| 2022-09-09 05:32:18 | <Solid> | So there is content, it's just not really centralised or streamlined |
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| 2022-09-09 07:42:18 | <Sose> | I have a problem trying to follow https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html |
| 2022-09-09 07:42:38 | <Sose> | xmobar isn't starting, I'm using the config in the tutorial and I get this weird error https://gist.github.com/Sose/f80036a56c1fcacdfb128f046c1084f5 |
| 2022-09-09 07:42:51 | <Sose> | unexpected "s" ? there's no "s" |
| 2022-09-09 07:43:48 | <Sose> | line 31 is the line that starts with "sepChar" so I guess there is an "s" there |
| 2022-09-09 07:50:27 | <Solid> | Sose: xmobar's error message for the config file are pretty horrible; my guess is that you don't have certain extensions enabled |
| 2022-09-09 07:51:26 | <Sose> | ohh |
| 2022-09-09 07:51:51 | <Sose> | I just did "cabal install xmobar".. I forgot the part about enabling all extensions >.< thanks |
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| 2022-09-09 08:08:25 | <mesaoptimizer> | sort of offtopic, but I don't understand why cabal doesn't have an uninstall package option |
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| 2022-09-09 08:32:34 | <Guest266> | Hello all! yesterday I tried to input the workspaces inside the xmobar, the configs are working good, but the problem is that the bar is not updating at all, but at least it is there. |
| 2022-09-09 08:32:34 | <Guest266> | like I said yesterday, my xmonad version is still .15, so I can't use the modern statusbar function, what can I do to update my mobar to show workspaces? |
| 2022-09-09 08:32:35 | <Guest266> | my .hs= https://pastebin.com/raw/wki6HeUG |
| 2022-09-09 08:32:35 | <Guest266> | my .xmobarrc= https://pastebin.com/raw/7VUGMpeT |
| 2022-09-09 08:32:36 | <Guest266> | thanks in advance! |
| 2022-09-09 08:35:11 | <Solid> | Guest266: you should not be using XMonadLog when using pipes (as the tutorial says) |
| 2022-09-09 08:35:51 | <Solid> | (you want StdinReader instead) |
| 2022-09-09 08:36:10 | <Solid> | also "xmobar -options -foo -bar" looks like a mistake |
| 2022-09-09 08:36:53 | <Solid> | friendly advice: actually follow the tutorial and start with a blank config; building things up from scratch is much easier than starting with something you don't understand and then trying to cram other things you don't understand into it |
| 2022-09-09 08:37:30 | <Guest266> | I understand, |
| 2022-09-09 08:37:56 | <Guest266> | ok I'll do it, thanks and bye |
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| 2022-09-09 09:24:52 | <Sose> | how do I change some of the default keybindings of xmonad? I want to change super-q to close focused window and super-enter to open terminal (instead of super-shift-enter), rebind restart to somewhere else etc... current config is https://gist.github.com/Sose/0379419711b467a7686ab791aed06174 |
| 2022-09-09 09:25:13 | <Sose> | I know of the additionalKeysP thing but how do I overwrite or rebind some of the originals? |
| 2022-09-09 09:28:42 | <mesaoptimizer> | Sose: I believe that your additional bindings overwrite the originals. Have you tried it? Either way, what I do is I remove keybindings I don't like using `removeKeysP` |
| 2022-09-09 09:29:13 | <mesaoptimizer> | for example: "`removeKeysP` ["M-" ++ [n] | n <- ['a' .. 'z']]" removes all mod-LETTER keybinds |
| 2022-09-09 09:33:35 | <Sose> | ah, okay, I'll try if overwriting just works :) |
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| 2022-09-09 09:58:07 | <Solid> | Yes overwriting should just work |
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| 2022-09-09 10:36:51 | <thyriaen> | I would like to bind my modkey pressed without anything else as my launcher - is this possible ? |
| 2022-09-09 10:41:28 | <mesaoptimizer> | I don't think that is possible, at least based on what I've seen in the docs |
| 2022-09-09 10:41:38 | <thyriaen> | oki |
| 2022-09-09 10:41:39 | <thyriaen> | thanks |
| 2022-09-09 10:41:55 | <mesaoptimizer> | in essence, you'd need to have a KeySym for the modkey and I didn't find a KeySym for the modkey |
| 2022-09-09 10:42:23 | <mesaoptimizer> | but I may be wrong |
| 2022-09-09 10:46:02 | <fizzie> | In plain X terms, the modifier keys do have keysyms and are also normal keypresses (just check `xev` for example), but I don't know if XMonad keybindings and/or X grabs would allow for handling them separately. You'd definitely have to do *something* to ignore those presses where you ended up pressing something else while the modifier key was held down. |
| 2022-09-09 10:51:16 | <fizzie> | Or more accurately, the keys used as modifiers *also* have keysyms. There's no keysym for "mod4" per se, but there's a xK_Super_L (etc.) for the keys mapped to mod4 here. |
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| 2022-09-09 11:02:17 | <Sose> | I'm using default keybinds for mod-j and mod-k to switch focus but it feels.. backwards. it would make more sense to me if the keybinds were reversed |
| 2022-09-09 11:04:13 | <thyriaen> | you can easily change it - or do you want to propose that the default is being changed ? |
| 2022-09-09 11:04:42 | <Sose> | I was looking for tips how to change it only for myself :D |
| 2022-09-09 11:06:18 | <Sose> | ah, I managed to find https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-0.17.1/docs/src/XMonad.Config.html |
| 2022-09-09 11:06:22 | <Sose> | maybe I can manage |
| 2022-09-09 11:08:20 | <Solid> | thyriaen: Try mapping <Super_L> (or whatever your modkey is) to an action and see what happens :D |
| 2022-09-09 11:09:43 | <Solid> | Sose: changing the default bindings isn't difficult; though there is _some_ internal logic to this (M-j goes *down* the stack and M-k goes *up*, much like these keys are used in e.g. vim) |
| 2022-09-09 11:18:13 | <Sose> | Solid: it wasn't too difficult once I found the source for the default keybinds so I could see what they do now. I understand the vim logic but I'm not very familiar with vim keys myself |
| 2022-09-09 11:18:41 | <Sose> | maybe I will get super confused with up/down if I decide to learn the vim keys some day :) |
| 2022-09-09 11:18:59 | <Solid> | at the end of the day what counts is what you're more comfortable with :) |
| 2022-09-09 11:21:46 | <Sose> | I'm going to propose that vim swap j/k around because it feels more natural to me reversed :D |
| 2022-09-09 11:21:55 | <Solid> | :D |
| 2022-09-09 11:31:12 | <thyriaen> | that seams reasonable |
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| 2022-09-09 12:12:00 | <fizzie> | But... the character 'j' extends *down*, while the character 'k' extends *up*. It makes perfect sense as-is. |
| 2022-09-09 12:12:46 | <fizzie> | As in, there's a bit of the glyph that sticks out in the relevant direction. |
| 2022-09-09 12:17:14 | <geekosaur> | for some value of sense. occasionally I wonder about an alternative wasd keysym set for roguelike players 🙂 |
| 2022-09-09 12:17:39 | <geekosaur> | have to change the key for monitor 0 though |
| 2022-09-09 12:18:44 | <xmonadtrack> | New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/754 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/754 |
| 2022-09-09 12:18:45 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Luca Leon Happel https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/754 * v0.17.1-11-g45faf3a2: made borderresize take a parameter (7 minutes ago, 2 files, 24+ 27-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/45faf3a27c29 |
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| 2022-09-09 18:28:09 | <liskin> | Solid: I'm thinking of spending a couple hours in Dresden next Thursday, would you like to meet for lunch or beer or something? (landing at the airport at 10 am) |
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