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2022-09-08 17:09:44 <Guest909> can / should I remove both manually?
2022-09-08 17:11:28 <Guest909> hm
2022-09-08 17:11:42 <Guest909> now the error is on line 11
2022-09-08 17:11:46 <Guest909> import XMonad
2022-09-08 17:12:13 <Guest909> ok, i go thrue the install.md again would solve it.\
2022-09-08 17:13:03 <geekosaur> cabal install --lib xmonad xmonad-contrib — make sure you run this in ~/.xmonad
2022-09-08 17:13:19 <geekosaur> (or ~/.config/xmonad if you used that directory for your config)
2022-09-08 17:14:18 <Guest909> yes Sir
2022-09-08 17:14:18 <Guest266> now the program gives me this https://pastebin.com/SUYM7RCe
2022-09-08 17:14:22 <Guest909> Lot of thanks!
2022-09-08 17:14:35 <Guest266> oops not that
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2022-09-08 17:17:46 <geekosaur> Guest909, without the --lib it builds and installs but doesn't register the install where we need it to be. if you already have it installed then it may do nothing except create the package registry in ~/.xmonad
2022-09-08 17:17:58 <liskin> geekosaur: I'd be surprised if their trying to hire you was actually due to xmonad as in someone knowing what it is and wanting you because of that; more likely just a general this person does open source in their free time they must be good kind of thing
2022-09-08 17:19:03 <geekosaur> yeh, that was half joking
2022-09-08 17:20:14 <geekosaur> but it suggests they know who I am and they almost certainly have used their own search resources to figure out things like how long I've been active and therefore a guess at my age — and it's somewhat surprising they'd be after an older man, tbh
2022-09-08 17:21:41 <geekosaur> (they'd also know I'm self-taught and therefore somewhat weak on things like formal algorithms training)
2022-09-08 17:23:23 <xmonadtrack> xmonad Tony Zorman * v0.17.1-6-gfb1f332: TUTORIAL: Remove ewmhFullscreen from < 0.17.0 instructions (11 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/fb1f33258e14
2022-09-08 17:23:23 <xmonadtrack> xmonad Tony Zorman * v0.17.1-7-gfd9de89: TUTORIAL: Add separators for < 0.17.0 instructions (13 minutes ago, 1 file, 32+ 12-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/fd9de8903f39
2022-09-08 17:32:56 <Guest266> Solid what does ‘m’ stand for in your code? myModMask?
2022-09-08 17:33:19 <Guest909> geekosaur thanks again and also for the additional hint with the --lib
2022-09-08 17:33:38 <Solid> Guest266: It's the modMask that you (probably) set in defaults
2022-09-08 17:33:50 <Solid> E.g., Super or something like that
2022-09-08 17:34:25 <geekosaur> `XConfig {modMask = m}` extracts the modMask from the XConfig that was passed as a parameter
2022-09-08 17:34:27 <Solid> arguably that line should read `toggleStrutsKey XConfig{ modMask } = (modMask, xK_b)` but you need a language extension for that, which might intimidate new people :)
2022-09-08 17:34:34 <geekosaur> and it can be used as `m`
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2022-09-08 19:19:44 <liskin> geekosaur: oh okay, that seems like they upped their recruitment game a bit :-)
2022-09-08 19:21:17 <geekosaur> depends on whether it's them directly (which it was in my case) or a headhunting agency, which I gather they use to get kids
2022-09-08 19:23:18 <geekosaur> they don't waste their time digging up go monkeys 🙂
2022-09-08 19:27:49 <liskin> I do have to admit that my experience was back when I was a kid
2022-09-08 19:29:42 <geekosaur> IIRC, first time they contacted me was before I'd gotten seriously involved with Haskell, tbh. I was in my upper 30s and staff at Carnegie Mellon ECE
2022-09-08 19:30:35 <geekosaur> but even early on they still farmed out hiring college grads and such
2022-09-08 19:32:14 <geekosaur> (hobnobbing with SCS grad students meant I got to compare and contrast the headhunters going after them…)
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2022-09-08 20:44:39 <ChaoticMist[m]> Is there some sort of reading list that introduces XMonad features? As in: `Did you know you could do X in XMonad?`
2022-09-08 20:45:26 <geekosaur> not that I'm aware of, aside things like distrotube's coverage
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2022-09-08 21:19:26 <ChaoticMist[m]> <geekosaur> "not that I'm aware of, aside..." <- Was thinking more like short segments (blog/video) that explains a certain feature, but I guess there seems to be none
2022-09-08 21:19:53 <ChaoticMist[m]> Distrotube's videos are generally "Here is my setup" based videos
2022-09-08 21:20:05 <ChaoticMist[m]> Although I do give him credit for making tutorials about xmonad
2022-09-08 21:23:38 <geekosaur> we have a stalled ticket (for several years) about making something like that
2022-09-08 21:26:05 <ChaoticMist[m]> Short animated videos/gifs + borrowing text from documentation and adding to it should create good enough segments imo
2022-09-08 21:26:18 <ChaoticMist[m]> Other's will most likely make a "better" follow up => more content out there
2022-09-08 21:26:32 <ChaoticMist[m]> So there is no loss, no matter how bad/good the posts are
2022-09-08 21:27:02 <ChaoticMist[m]> I'll do my part after figuring out how to setup a modular setup, trying to write my own xmonad config and not use other people's work so that I can get the hang of it atm :)
2022-09-08 21:29:11 <mesaoptimizer> I think the docs are quite useful
2022-09-08 21:29:53 <mesaoptimizer> but yes, I stumbled upon the custom key sequence keybinds (and was motivated to make them) after seeing distrotube mention them offhandedly in his doom emacs video
2022-09-08 21:30:08 <mesaoptimizer> s/mention/mention and show/
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2022-09-08 21:34:22 <geekosaur> right now I think you pretty much just have to read through all the xmonad-contrib haddocks. of which there are over 300…
2022-09-08 21:35:30 <ChaoticMist[m]> Figured that part out.. lol
2022-09-08 21:35:39 <ChaoticMist[m]> I guess I have to endure that somehow..
2022-09-08 21:37:47 <geekosaur> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/160 is the stalled ticket I was thinking of. it only covers layouts though, not things like the Prompt tree or Actions
2022-09-08 21:40:55 <ChaoticMist[m]> Damn.. that was 5 years ago
2022-09-08 21:41:44 <ChaoticMist[m]> And apparently only `modifiers.hs` was completed.. seems like a daunting task judging from the speed of that thread xD
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2022-09-09 05:30:41 <Solid> ChaoticMist[m]: small steps :)
2022-09-09 05:31:13 <Solid> I recently saw these videos, which I thought were okay (although a bit long for what you're thinking) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChLZs-UXoCfwwfWjteijYDA
2022-09-09 05:31:57 <Solid> I've written a little bit about certain new features in 0.17.1 ( https://tony-zorman.com/posts/orgmode-prompt/2022-08-27-xmonad-and-org-mode.html and https://tony-zorman.com/posts/2022-05-25-calling-emacs-from-xmonad.html )

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