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2021-10-21 22:20:04 <eqw> Hello. My xmobar is now behind any windows and thus invisible and almost useless. This problem didn't exist until today. Restart of X doesn't help. What else can I do?
2021-10-21 22:20:45 <geekosaur> sounds like you lost avoidStruts somewhere in your layoutHook
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2021-10-21 22:22:08 <geekosaur> since that's what forces windows to resize around the status bar
2021-10-21 22:22:23 <eqw> but I didn't touch my ~/.xmonad/xmobar.hs since 2017
2021-10-21 22:23:28 <eqw> and neither I touched ~/.xmonad/xmonad.hs since 2020
2021-10-21 22:24:02 <geekosaur> conceivably you took an update that changed things, although it'd have had to be really delayed for it to be one of the xmonad changes that affected this
2021-10-21 22:24:46 <geekosaur> might have been an xmobar update, I think they changed the interaction between override_redirect and lowerOnStart?
2021-10-21 22:25:10 <geekosaur> sadly liskin's the one who knows xmobar but I think he gave up and went to bed
2021-10-21 22:30:14 <liskin> I wanted to, but haven't managed to go yet :-)
2021-10-21 22:30:33 <eqw> so neither xmonad nor xmobar store on disk any info between runs?
2021-10-21 22:30:55 <liskin> eqw: if you haven't changed config, what did you change? did you upgrade anything?
2021-10-21 22:31:01 <liskin> or perhaps downgrade? :-)
2021-10-21 22:31:30 <eqw> liskin: nothing, i believe
2021-10-21 22:32:04 <liskin> xmonad stores state, but restarting X clears that, so it's as if it didn't
2021-10-21 22:32:42 <geekosaur> xmonad and xmobar only store their configs. there's some information xmonad passes between running instances during mod-q but if that's sticking around it's a bug
2021-10-21 22:32:54 <geekosaur> that said you might see if mod-shift-space changes anything
2021-10-21 22:33:05 <geekosaur> (this will reset layouts)
2021-10-21 22:34:15 <liskin> I don't think there were changes in xmobar around override_redirect/lowerOnStart lately, it's been that way for ages
2021-10-21 22:34:24 <eqw> the screen is blinking when i press mod-shift-space. I mean, I see xmobar for a part of second.
2021-10-21 22:34:56 <geekosaur> yes, it forces a refresh. but this sounds like the layout is broken, then
2021-10-21 22:35:30 <liskin> and xmonad's handling of this was touched lately, but not in a way that would need config changes, or break it; more the other way around, we made it more tolerant of misconfigurations and fixed bugs
2021-10-21 22:36:01 <liskin> so the only scenario I can think of that would explain this is eqm upgrading from xmonad 0.11 to xmonad 0.13/0.15 or something :-)
2021-10-21 22:36:21 <liskin> *eqw I mean
2021-10-21 22:38:04 <liskin> (and if that's what happened, the solution is to either use "docks" instead of "docksEventHook", or to upgrade to the current git master, which makes "docksEventHook" alone work again)
2021-10-21 22:38:25 <geekosaur> might be worth seeing your config to see if there are bugs in it (or bugs in xmonad that it uncovers)
2021-10-21 22:38:27 <eqw> I upgraded my ubuntu from 16.04 to 20.04, but it took place about year ago
2021-10-21 22:38:32 <geekosaur> @where paste
2021-10-21 22:38:32 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
2021-10-21 22:39:01 <liskin> eqw: an update of ubuntu doesn't force xmonad to recompile, though
2021-10-21 22:39:12 <liskin> so it's possible you were running an old binary
2021-10-21 22:39:20 <liskin> and then something forced it to rebuild today
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2021-10-21 22:40:58 <eqw> when the problem appeared I removed the binaries in ~/.xmonad as the had mtime 2021-10-21
2021-10-21 22:41:18 <eqw> https://termbin.com/0ust is my xmonad.hs
2021-10-21 22:41:22 <liskin> and ubuntu 16.04 was released before xmonad 0.13, so this seems close to the explanation I had in mind
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2021-10-21 22:41:35 <liskin> 2021-10-21 is today, so that indeed suggests it recompiled today for some reason
2021-10-21 22:42:18 <liskin> oh, right, you have neither docksEventHook nor docksStartupHook there
2021-10-21 22:42:43 <liskin> that's indeed a config that should be broken since 0.12-ish
2021-10-21 22:43:08 <liskin> https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib-0.16.999/XMonad-Hooks-ManageDocks.html
2021-10-21 22:43:15 <liskin> main = xmonad $ … . docks . … $ def{…}
2021-10-21 22:43:37 <liskin> in your case just main = xmonad $ docks $ def
2021-10-21 22:45:21 <eqw> that helped, thank you!
2021-10-21 22:45:28 <liskin> good
2021-10-21 22:45:35 <liskin> and good night, this time for real :-)
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2021-10-21 22:50:30 <Arcanus[m]> <liskin> "and then something forced it..." <- I just had a major update for xmonad today, it also looks like my config may be broken, still waiting on updates to finish, but I expect to not have a working machine here soon
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2021-10-22 03:33:54 <L29Ah> i see there's https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-0.15/docs/XMonad-ManageHook.html#v:-61--63- for exact matching of window properties
2021-10-22 03:34:30 <L29Ah> how should i match a prefix of a window property?
2021-10-22 03:52:24 <fizzie> You can look at the definition of =?, namely: q =? x = fmap (== x) q
2021-10-22 03:52:26 <fizzie> And then do the same thing except with isPrefixOf.
2021-10-22 03:54:42 <fizzie> IOW, fmap ("foo" `isPrefixOf`) should work for converting a Query String to a Query Bool.
2021-10-22 03:55:19 <L29Ah> thanks
2021-10-22 04:00:22 <fizzie> There's also https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Hooks-ManageHelpers.html#v:isInProperty which isn't exactly "prefix" but "contains" instead.
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2021-10-22 05:20:00 <Solid> people have asked for a prefix thing quite often lately
2021-10-22 05:20:09 <Solid> I guess we should provide that
2021-10-22 05:21:02 <Solid> it would even fit nicely into the language is we called it `(^?)` or something (which would also give us `(~?)` for and `isInfixOf` variant
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2021-10-22 07:04:58 <mc47[m]> Solid I just needed that lately too
2021-10-22 07:05:31 <mc47[m]> Might be worth it to explain how to create custom predicates (e.g. tell them about fmap)
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2021-10-22 07:28:14 <mc47> geekosaur: my medium concern is about changing WSPP from WSPP' (WorkspaceId -> String) to WSPP' (PP -> WorkspaceId -> String) so fallbackPrinters can be useful
2021-10-22 07:28:40 <mc47> the small concern is about exposing -?>
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2021-10-22 07:39:07 <JasonFischmann[m> is there any way of getting xmonad working with gnome 40 like dwm-gnome and awesome-gnome on the arch user repository ?
2021-10-22 07:39:24 <JasonFischmann[m> theres a way to do it with gnome 3 but it no longer works
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2021-10-22 08:23:32 <FOSSHuman[m]> <Arcanus[m]> "I just had a major update for..." <- This will help you update your config: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/CHANGES.md
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