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2021-06-07 00:38:35 <yushyin> Flux: if you selected a ghc version as your default in ghcup and set up your PATH correctly, yes.
2021-06-07 00:38:36 <glguy> sclv, I stopped trying to figure out the command line (not that it was particularly complicated) and always use `ghcup tui` now
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2021-06-07 00:39:00 <geekosaur> hm, I stand corrected, I see no env in there on my system. I just added ~/.ghcup/bin to $PATH locally but my $PATH management is somewhat complex
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2021-06-07 00:40:17 <Flux> yushyin: how do i set a ghc version as default in ghcup
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2021-06-07 00:40:27 <Flux> is it just ghcup set
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2021-06-07 00:40:44 <geekosaur> or the equivalent using ghcup tui, yes
2021-06-07 00:40:45 <yushyin> try `ghcup tui'
2021-06-07 00:40:54 <Flux> oh nice
2021-06-07 00:40:57 <Flux> looks nice
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2021-06-07 00:43:51 <Flux> hmm so if i want to use stack and ghcup how would that work
2021-06-07 00:44:04 <Flux> + what are the things to be cautious about
2021-06-07 00:44:53 <sclv> they're orthogonal
2021-06-07 00:45:00 <sclv> stack manages ghcs in its own special way and ghcup in another
2021-06-07 00:45:03 <sclv> the two never intersect
2021-06-07 00:45:05 <hololeap> is there any big reason why type families cannot be partially applied, or is it just something that is in the process of being implemented?
2021-06-07 00:45:31 <boxscape> hololeap there are reasons but it is in the process of being proposed https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/242
2021-06-07 00:45:34 <sclv> so they don't work together, but they don't hurt one another (except you get even more ghc installs littering your system)
2021-06-07 00:46:01 <hololeap> boxscape: cool thanks
2021-06-07 00:46:31 <boxscape> hololeap the main reason is that when you know `f x ~ g y` you can usually deduce that `x ~ y` and `f ~ g`, but that's not true if f and g are type families, which makes things more complicated
2021-06-07 00:46:44 <sclv> here's a direct link to the proposal: https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/blob/master/proposals/0242-unsaturated-type-families.rst
2021-06-07 00:47:22 <boxscape> hololeap oh whoops it was actually already accepted so I guess it is in the process of being implemented
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2021-06-07 00:51:44 <Flux> are there nice resources to understand how stack works
2021-06-07 00:51:57 <Flux> i feel like there are plenty of half-detailed tutorials
2021-06-07 00:52:07 <Axman6> what about the stack documentation?
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2021-06-07 00:52:32 <Flux> i am generally too lazy to read through documentation in full whoops
2021-06-07 00:52:53 <Axman6> so the answer is yes, you just don't want to read it ;)
2021-06-07 00:52:57 <yushyin> wow ...
2021-06-07 00:53:13 <Flux> lmao
2021-06-07 00:53:20 <Flux> you right
2021-06-07 00:53:36 <Flux> sometimes i just want to absorb information effortlessly
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2021-06-07 00:53:36 <Flux> :)
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2021-06-07 01:09:45 <Flux> is there a way to make ghci not show all the packages being loaded
2021-06-07 01:09:57 <geekosaur> -v0, I think
2021-06-07 01:10:45 <Flux> stack ghci -v0?
2021-06-07 01:10:47 <Flux> didn't seem to work
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2021-06-07 01:11:28 <geekosaur> with stack you'd need: stack ghci --ghci-options=-v0 or something like that
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2021-06-07 01:12:12 <Flux> o
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2021-06-07 01:39:35 <cdsmith> I want some kind of constraint that lets me access a type-level Symbol at runtime as a String. Does that sound like something that exists?
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2021-06-07 01:39:55 <Axman6> KnownSymbol?
2021-06-07 01:39:56 <geekosaur> KnownSymbol?
2021-06-07 01:40:03 <Axman6> @quote stereo
2021-06-07 01:40:03 <lambdabot> monochrom says: Welcome to #haskell, where @remember's are in majestic stereo!
2021-06-07 01:40:07 <cdsmith> Ah, sounds promising. Yes
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2021-06-07 01:46:00 <int-e> @quote fugue
2021-06-07 01:46:00 <lambdabot> monochrom says: Welcome to #haskell, where your questions are answered in contrapuntal fugues.
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