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2021-07-29 19:38:44 <dsal> @pl \x -> putStrLn $ " " <> x
2021-07-29 19:38:44 <lambdabot> putStrLn . (" " <>)
2021-07-29 19:38:54 <lechner> maybe putStr . (" - " ++) ?
2021-07-29 19:39:06 <dsal> That's not the most egregious point freedom.
2021-07-29 19:39:14 <dsal> But you need to understand what it's saying.
2021-07-29 19:39:54 <lechner> i actually wrote that before seeing [exa]'s response
2021-07-29 19:39:59 <dsal> > (" - " <>) "dash"
2021-07-29 19:40:00 <lambdabot> " - dash"
2021-07-29 19:40:24 <[exa]> lechner: np :]
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2021-07-29 19:42:45 <lechner> so, perhaps to state the obvious: a lambda with one variable is a partially applied function with one degree of freedom remainig, right? (in beginner's parlance)
2021-07-29 19:43:52 <dsal> I would say it doesn't make sense to call a function partially applied if it has one argument.
2021-07-29 19:44:20 <dsal> If a function takes two arguments and you supply one, it's partially applied.
2021-07-29 19:44:56 <dsal> Sections are a way of specifying that a function that takes two arguments is either partially applied in its first or second argument.
2021-07-29 19:45:42 <dsal> > . ("¡¡¡" <>) . (<> "!!!") $ "It can do both.
2021-07-29 19:45:44 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘.’
2021-07-29 19:45:45 <dsal> > . ("¡¡¡" <>) . (<> "!!!") $ "It can do both."
2021-07-29 19:45:47 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘.’
2021-07-29 19:45:54 <dsal> > ("¡¡¡" <>) . (<> "!!!") $ "It can do both."
2021-07-29 19:45:56 <lambdabot> "\161\161\161It can do both.!!!"
2021-07-29 19:45:57 <dsal> Man, I'm not smart today.
2021-07-29 19:46:00 <dsal> Also, boo.
2021-07-29 19:46:06 <Drew[m]> <maerwald> "so how do I use this from..." <- I've never done this before so I'm just learning as I go and probably not telling you what you don't already know but according to stack overflow you can call Haskell from C# by just using Haskell's FFI as you would to make Haskell callable from C, and using C#'s FFI as you would to call a C function. I assume the same idea applies in reverse.
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2021-07-29 19:47:33 <lechner> wow, my little program is 18 megabytes! is haskell statically lihked like golang?
2021-07-29 19:47:53 <dminuoso> lechner: Yes and no.
2021-07-29 19:48:09 <dminuoso> The haskell object files get statically linked in, but native libraries are dynamically linked
2021-07-29 19:48:43 <dminuoso> lechner: Try setting `split-sections: True` in your ~/.cabal/config, and then also enable executable stripping in the cabal invocation.
2021-07-29 19:48:50 <dsal> lechner: You just have room to grow!
2021-07-29 19:48:55 <dminuoso> Note that this will rebuild all transitive dependencies
2021-07-29 19:49:00 <dsal> If it's 18MB, you should do 18MB worth of stuff in it.
2021-07-29 19:49:08 <dminuoso> This can easily get the size down to say 1MiB
2021-07-29 19:49:21 <dsal> Is it rust that prioritized tiny binaries?
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2021-07-29 19:52:28 <delYsid> Whats the "correct" way to use "at" from the Lens package with a Map where I know the key is present? at foo . to fromJust looks weird :-)
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2021-07-29 19:52:56 <dminuoso> delYsid: Hard to say what "correct" means without knowing your usage pattern.
2021-07-29 19:53:02 <delYsid> and ^?! doesnt work.
2021-07-29 19:53:10 <dminuoso> delYsid: But you can use: at foo . _Just
2021-07-29 19:53:19 <dminuoso> Consider preview to consume this
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2021-07-29 19:53:43 <dminuoso> % import Data.Map qualified as M
2021-07-29 19:53:43 <yahb> dminuoso:
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2021-07-29 19:54:54 <dminuoso> % preview (at "foo" . _Just) (M.fromList [("foo", 1), ("bar", 2)])
2021-07-29 19:54:55 <yahb> dminuoso: Just 1
2021-07-29 19:55:01 <dminuoso> delYsid: If you can read what yahb just said.
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2021-07-29 19:57:31 <lechner> dminuoso: stripping is not on by default? https://cabal.readthedocs.io/en/3.4/cabal-project.html#cfg-field-executable-stripping
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2021-07-29 19:58:50 <delYsid> dminuosoBut now the result is a Just again :-) I was joping to get a pure result, since, I know the key must be present...
2021-07-29 19:59:52 <delYsid> % view (at "foo" . to fromJust) (M.fromList [("foo", 1), ("bar", 2)])
2021-07-29 19:59:52 <yahb> delYsid: 1
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2021-07-29 20:03:09 <amesgen[m]> % M.fromList [("foo", 1), ("bar", 2)] ^?! ix "foo"
2021-07-29 20:03:09 <yahb> amesgen[m]: 1
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2021-07-29 20:03:42 <amesgen[m]> delYsid: ^ this should be about as succinct as it gets
2021-07-29 20:07:17 <lechner> dsal [exa] dminuoso roboguy_: thanks so much for your help today!
2021-07-29 20:08:52 <roboguy_> lechner: you're welcome!
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2021-07-29 20:10:04 <delYsid> amesgen[m]: Thanks! This is a bit surprising, as I thought ix only worked for arrays and such... So it actually does work for maps!
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2021-07-29 20:13:20 <amesgen[m]> delYsid: yeah, there are many instances, even for functions (by application): https://hackage.haskell.org/package/lens-5.0.1/docs/Control-Lens-At.html#t:Ixed
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2021-07-29 20:18:28 <delYsid> k, tnx
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2021-07-29 20:41:20 <maerwald> sm: following your advice, I updated the FAQ section of the README, so next time I can just link there
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2021-07-29 21:08:46 <sm> maerwald: +1, that's a time saver. https://gitlab.haskell.org/haskell/ghcup-hs#faq
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