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2021-06-21 17:33:00 <dminuoso> c_wraith: What kind of pattern matching are you thinking of in parametric polymorphism?
2021-06-21 17:33:18 <dminuoso> Or did you mean unification? The sentence structure is not clear.
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2021-06-21 17:33:44 <c_wraith> in that sentence I meant that unification is a kind of pattern matching, in a very broad sense.
2021-06-21 17:34:00 <c_wraith> but that's very different from runtime pattern matching of values.
2021-06-21 17:34:01 <ski> _73 : "maybe if I had to account for the possibility of error it would be easier to do this then instead start using the EitherT State transformer?" -- maybe. ("Is this a sensical reason?" -- yes) "Cps is reminding me a lot of monads…" -- there are clear similarities
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2021-06-21 17:36:02 <ski> _73 : it sounds like maybe you'd want to experiment with `ContT o' or `Codensity', or maybe a handwritten CPS monad, over `EitherT Error (State ProgramState) Value'
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2021-06-21 17:48:28 <ski> _73 : one of the main reasons for using CPS / `Cont o'/`ContT o'/`Codensity', apart from wanting to do more exotic control behaviour, is for efficiency reasons. you'll sometimes hear "removal of interpretative overhead / avoiding step-by-step percolating errors upward / avoiding left-association", in connection with `(>>=)'. perhaps the `Either' (or maybe the `(,)') could cause some overhead, that could be
2021-06-21 17:48:34 <ski> avoided in this way. but i'd say before doing anything like this, you should have some suspicion that this might be a problem; and then, you should really attempt to measure some
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2021-06-21 17:55:11 <_73> ski: what is meant by the `o` in `Cont o`?
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2021-06-21 18:11:30 <Izem> do haskellers ever have the need for macros?
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2021-06-21 18:15:11 <monochrom> Yes. This is why Template Haskell exists.
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2021-06-21 18:16:37 <davean> though Template Haskell is more than macros in a way, and its not wanted for much in Haskell
2021-06-21 18:17:30 <Izem> ok, cool
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2021-06-21 18:24:59 <ski> _73 : the "final answer type"
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