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2021-06-21 18:35:21 × betelgeuse7 quits (~john2gb@94-225-47-8.access.telenet.be) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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2021-06-21 18:39:06 <_73`> ski: ok I see. I did initially try this but I wasn't able to get my `Either Error Value` functions lifted in. Do I need to rethink the Either functions as well? Before with the `ExceptT Error (State PS.ProgramState) ()` I was able to just use liftEither to get them lifted in, but now I cant come up with a way to get these functions to work with the Cont Monad. Is this ever going to work?: http://dpaste.com/C2ZEWRKHN
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2021-06-21 18:39:47 <_73`> This problem lead me to do: `ContT PS.ProgramState (ExceptT Error (State PS.ProgramState)) Value`, but I think this may defeat the purpose.
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2021-06-21 18:42:07 <BSTMatAoUYek> 9o baCk to fReen0De OR N0rtH kOr3A nuke5 Y0u
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2021-06-21 18:43:05 <sshine> I thought it was south korea.
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2021-06-21 18:45:30 <lTcLPewPJLOs> jo1n fr3Enode sIDE, we hAv3 CookieS&fRe3 bnc
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2021-06-21 18:58:42 <tomsmeding> well at least they're mindful enough to approach the issue from both sides: scare us away from here and lure us to the other side
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2021-06-21 18:59:59 <monochrom> Except when you go to the other side you also see them suggesting you to come back here.
2021-06-21 19:00:15 <tomsmeding> probably not the same "them" though
2021-06-21 19:00:27 <tomsmeding> this at least was even the very same IP address :p
2021-06-21 19:00:50 <tomsmeding> also the nicks were equally long and the messages were also (!) equally long
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2021-06-21 19:01:49 <monochrom> Same "them" is already the best scenerio. The worse scenerio is different "them" therefore akin to two government departments telling you "go to the other department, this is their problem".
2021-06-21 19:02:55 <monochrom> But good eyes catching the lengths :)
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2021-06-21 19:05:50 <tomsmeding> my client hiding joins/leaves of idle nicks does make it easier to spot :)
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2021-06-21 19:07:17 <_73`> ski: I now understand why my example was not going to work.
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2021-06-21 19:08:35 ski would think it's more likely to be the same "them" (or similarly motivated people), at least for the "/!\ ..."-style spam, that's been visible on multiple networks, lately
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2021-06-21 19:09:06 <ski> (i've seen that on five networks, and i haven't really bothered to look around more for it)
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2021-06-21 19:12:32 <ski> @unmtl ContT o (ExceptT e (StateT s m)) a
2021-06-21 19:12:32 <lambdabot> (a -> s -> m (Either e o, s)) -> s -> m (Either e o, s)
2021-06-21 19:12:36 <ski> @unmtl ExceptT e (ContT o (StateT s m)) a
2021-06-21 19:12:36 <lambdabot> (Either e a -> s -> m (o, s)) -> s -> m (o, s)
2021-06-21 19:12:38 <ski> @unmtl ExceptT e (StateT s (ContT o m)) a
2021-06-21 19:12:39 <lambdabot> s -> (Either e a -> s -> m o) -> m o
2021-06-21 19:14:27 <ski> _73` : the last one looks more promising, i'd think. although, perhaps (or perhaps not) it would be worth it to manually replace `(Either e a -> s -> m o) ->' by `(e -> s -> m o) -> (a -> s -> m o) ->' (having separate "normal exit" and "exceptional exit" paths) ..
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2021-06-21 19:15:42 <amirouche> oops!
2021-06-21 19:17:38 <_73`> I am going to have to consider this for some time. First I will see how far I can get with the last example. Thanks.
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