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2021-04-20 11:47:28 <alexm_> hey folks, I'm doing fp-course (former NICTA course) and have been stuck on the filtering exercise for the Applicative part
2021-04-20 11:47:55 <dibblego> how far have you got so far?
2021-04-20 11:48:10 <alexm_> I've finally come up with this and feel like it can be made more elegant
2021-04-20 11:48:12 <alexm_> filtering _ Nil = pure Nil
2021-04-20 11:48:12 <alexm_> filtering p (x:.xs) = lift2 (++) (append x <$> p x) (filtering p xs)
2021-04-20 11:48:12 <alexm_> where append x' b | b = x' :. Nil
2021-04-20 11:48:14 <alexm_> | otherwise = Nil
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2021-04-20 11:49:42 <dibblego> you can try using (:.) instead of (++) in the condition test
2021-04-20 11:50:15 <dibblego> it is tricky, especially when doing it on your own
2021-04-20 11:50:31 <dibblego> usually by here, people have been given _LOTS_ of hints (and tend to ignore them anyway :)
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2021-04-20 11:51:41 <dibblego> try this: lift2 (bool id (x:.)) _todo (filtering p xs)
2021-04-20 11:51:42 <alexm_> when you say condition test which part do you mean exactly?
2021-04-20 11:51:49 <dibblego> append
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2021-04-20 11:52:24 <alexm_> ok, will try
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2021-04-20 11:52:33 <alexm_> thanks for the hint!
2021-04-20 11:54:28 <alexm_> that bool function is the one I was desperately searching for thinking about how can I do simple truthiness check in applicative context, sigh...
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2021-04-20 12:00:17 <alexm_> dibblego updated version is: filtering p (x:.xs) = lift2 (bool id (x:.)) (p x) (filtering p xs)
2021-04-20 12:02:56 <alexm_> I wonder, how do you arrive to such solution? is that a common pattern of sorts?
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2021-04-20 12:03:24 <merijn> type tetris, usually
2021-04-20 12:03:42 <merijn> "look at the pieces, make them fit" :p
2021-04-20 12:04:09 <alexm_> easier said than done :)
2021-04-20 12:04:13 <kuribas> the tuple trick usually works fine
2021-04-20 12:04:29 <kuribas> I write myFun = () $ partial_implementation
2021-04-20 12:04:38 <kuribas> then let the type system tell me what I need next.
2021-04-20 12:04:41 <merijn> alexm_: That's where experience with possible things kicks in :)
2021-04-20 12:04:52 <merijn> kuribas: You can do the same but better with _
2021-04-20 12:05:07 <kuribas> merijn: I disagree. I find that tuple gives me usually better error messages.
2021-04-20 12:05:28 <kuribas> I only use typed holes for unimplemented functions.
2021-04-20 12:06:56 <kuribas> Also writing straigtforward but verbose code, then using rewrite rules to make it nicer usually works very well.
2021-04-20 12:07:18 <kuribas> And it's what I would recommend any beginner.

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