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2021-04-20 05:18:15 <Guest78317> these opportunities are rare compared to solidity....
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2021-04-20 05:37:34 <Axman6> Guest78317: congrats on the job :) Worth keeping in mind the Haskell community is pretty small, so you may have colleagues in here :P
2021-04-20 05:37:53 <Guest78317> oh i almost certainly do
2021-04-20 05:38:03 <Axman6> "small" is a lot larger than when I started though, and now I'm on job #5ish using Haskell
2021-04-20 05:38:49 <Guest78317> i have an FT thing starting in september that i am like absolutely praying i can get to write something functional at least
2021-04-20 05:38:55 <Guest78317> i think rust is likely
2021-04-20 05:39:00 <Guest78317> which, meh. could be worse
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2021-04-20 05:39:59 <Guest78317> i applied to co-star and they ignored me :| and i dont wanna work at facebook for the love of god
2021-04-20 05:40:32 <Guest78317> don't know what other options there are out there but in5ish years i might be in here asking for places to apply
2021-04-20 05:40:42 <gnumonic> rust is fun. i made the mistake of learning haskell as a first language (self-taught) and of all the other languages i tried rust was the only one that didn't kind of feel like pulling my own teeth out
2021-04-20 05:40:48 <gnumonic> though i wish it had higher kinded types :-(
2021-04-20 05:41:24 <juri_> Guest78317: good luck. :)
2021-04-20 05:41:25 <Axman6> yeah :(
2021-04-20 05:41:48 <Axman6> gnumonic: you'd be surprised how many places there are these days. There's plenty of places which aren't Facebook
2021-04-20 05:41:55 <Axman6> uh, Guest78317
2021-04-20 05:42:14 <Guest78317> i was talking to a few trading shops but i want to do open source more than trading
2021-04-20 05:42:38 <Guest78317> like nonhaskell meaningful open source work is a higher priority for me than haskell trading
2021-04-20 05:43:05 <juri_> Good on you. there are haskell free software shops. I happen to work at one.
2021-04-20 05:43:06 <Axman6> plenty of the companies doing cryptocurrency stuff do much of it as open source
2021-04-20 05:43:24 <Axman6> juri_: mind if I ask where? always good to know who there is
2021-04-20 05:43:34 <juri_> Axman6: wire.com
2021-04-20 05:43:51 <Axman6> oh nice, considered applying there since I know what they do
2021-04-20 05:43:58 <Guest78317> libp2p has an up-and-coming haskell implementation that i am like fingers-crossed someone will let me hack on
2021-04-20 05:44:08 <Guest78317> but that's really the only corner of the place i'm headed that is haskelly afaik
2021-04-20 05:44:28 <Axman6> get plenty of shoutouts on Security, Privacy and OSINT podcast for Wire
2021-04-20 05:44:39 <Guest78317> what other free software shops? im not going to like flake on my plans but im also just curious for more info on where i might hack in the future
2021-04-20 05:44:52 <gaze__> hey folks -- is there a good recommended library for talking to subprocesses?
2021-04-20 05:44:58 <Axman6> uh, "since I like what they do" no idea how that became know
2021-04-20 05:45:05 <juri_> Axman6: I'd recommend working here. put in an odd application, you might be surprised.
2021-04-20 05:45:07 <gaze__> I'm not even sure if pipes are the recommended way to plumb things together these days
2021-04-20 05:45:16 <Axman6> gaze__: talking how?
2021-04-20 05:45:31 <Guest78317> gaze__: you should call out to AWS and reverse shell back in
2021-04-20 05:45:32 <gaze__> just plumbing stdin and stdout, killing, starting
2021-04-20 05:45:39 <Guest78317> spawn an nginx instance for each
2021-04-20 05:45:44 <gaze__> disgusting
2021-04-20 05:45:46 <Guest78317> ok that wasn't even funny im just sleepy sorry folks
2021-04-20 05:45:53 <gaze__> yeah I'm upset now
2021-04-20 05:46:05 <gaze__> u better be sorry
2021-04-20 05:46:08 <Guest78317> dw
2021-04-20 05:46:27 <Axman6> juri_: You might struggle to beat my current contracting rate but I will consider it. I'd love to get the opportunity to play with more cryptography in HAskell, I did the recent BSIdes CTF all in Haskell and smashed out most of the crypto challenges
2021-04-20 05:46:37 <gnumonic> actually since this is on topic: is there a good central place to look for haskell jobs? the big sites seem like kind of a wash (search linkedin for haskell, 20k c++ jobs pops up)
2021-04-20 05:46:37 <Guest78317> Axman6: what team lol do i know you
2021-04-20 05:46:57 <Axman6> I was by myself - this was BSides Canberra
2021-04-20 05:47:12 <Guest78317> also i think the crypto library in haskell is missing primitives last time i tried to play with it
2021-04-20 05:47:14 <Axman6> @google functionaljobs
2021-04-20 05:47:15 <lambdabot> No Result Found.
2021-04-20 05:47:22 <Axman6> u wot
2021-04-20 05:47:38 <Axman6> Guest78317: "The crypto library"?
2021-04-20 05:47:51 <Axman6> there's plenty, but I've always found what I needed in cryptonite
2021-04-20 05:48:03 <Guest78317> cryptonite
2021-04-20 05:48:27 <Guest78317> i spent about 10 minutes like "noise protocol????" but then stuff was missing so i went and did other things instead
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2021-04-20 05:49:54 <Guest78317> srsly tho my background is "cryptography/distsys/machine learning master's" and lately "blockchain: have to fund the skincare addiction somehow", if anyone can rattle off places
2021-04-20 05:50:20 <Guest78317> i wanna have them on my rader for when i eventually leave this FT place and want to consult in a language that makes me happy
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2021-04-20 06:07:59 <Axman6> there is an implementation of the noise protocol in Haskell, the implementation of Wireguard relies on it (though that project is now abandoned by the wireguard authors). noise is definitely not crypto primitives though
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2021-04-20 06:08:28 <gaze__> oh also -- are conduit and pipes the recommended IO libraries these days, or is there something more modern?
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2021-04-20 06:09:00 <Axman6> IOHK would be probably the best known cryptocurrency/blockchain option, then there's where I'm contracted, Digital Asset, and a few others
2021-04-20 06:09:52 <Axman6> gaze__: I ahven't used any for a while, but I found conduit fairly easy to use. streaming is quite nice, streamly is supposed to be fast but I've never used it
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2021-04-20 06:46:11 <koz_> Pipes is also pretty good. Conduit has a bigger ecosystem I think.
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