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2020-11-25 00:51:01 hackage servant-exceptions 0.2.0 - Extensible exceptions for servant APIs https://hackage.haskell.org/package/servant-exceptions-0.2.0 (ch1bo)
2020-11-25 00:52:01 hackage servant-exceptions-server 0.2.0 - Extensible exceptions for servant API servers https://hackage.haskell.org/package/servant-exceptions-server-0.2.0 (ch1bo)
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2020-11-25 01:10:05 <ezzieyguywuf> how do I use the haskell language server that ghcup asked me of I wanted to install?
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2020-11-25 01:13:04 <koz_> ezzieyguywuf: Do you have an editor with support for it?
2020-11-25 01:13:25 <ezzieyguywuf> koz_: i think so - vim.
2020-11-25 01:13:35 <ezzieyguywuf> (with ALE plugin)
2020-11-25 01:13:49 <koz_> ezzieyguywuf: So the answer is 'no unless you wanna run a garbage Node.js slurry', because ALE's support was broken last I checked.
2020-11-25 01:13:52 <ezzieyguywuf> do I need to initialize the server myself?
2020-11-25 01:13:55 <koz_> (incomplete LSP implementation)
2020-11-25 01:14:06 <ezzieyguywuf> oh dang
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2020-11-25 01:18:14 <sm[m]> ezzieyguywuf: the easy way is install vs codes Haskell extension
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2020-11-25 01:18:41 <koz_> sm[m]: Which naturally involves using VS Code.
2020-11-25 01:18:58 <sm[m]> right!
2020-11-25 01:19:55 <sm[m]> If only to get a bunch of binaries installed, see how it works, decide if you need it etc.
2020-11-25 01:20:26 <ezzieyguywuf> vs codes?
2020-11-25 01:20:36 <koz_> ezzieyguywuf: It's an IDE.
2020-11-25 01:20:39 <koz_> People seem to like it.
2020-11-25 01:20:43 <koz_> I don't understand those people.
2020-11-25 01:20:44 <sm[m]> VS Code's
2020-11-25 01:20:58 <ezzieyguywuf> oh, I don't think I have that
2020-11-25 01:21:25 <sm[m]> I'm an emacs guy but vs code plus hls is extremely good
2020-11-25 01:21:50 <sm[m]> If you want to try out hls , it is the easy way
2020-11-25 01:22:06 <koz_> sm[m]: Former Emacs, current (Neo)vim, and VS Code left me inordinately and utterly unimpressed.
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2020-11-25 01:22:26 <koz_> It's a giant slurry which barely functions, makes no sense, and eats resources like it's some kind of factory.
2020-11-25 01:22:39 <sm[m]> ymmv
2020-11-25 01:22:49 <koz_> Precisely, which is why I insist on mentioning it. :P
2020-11-25 01:22:53 <Axman6> I'm a big fan of VS Code these days, heaps of extensions, is actively maintainerd and its performance is improving all the time
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2020-11-25 01:23:02 <sm[m]> I find it pretty light. Hls is the one eating ram
2020-11-25 01:23:05 <koz_> Axman6: Can it run as fast as my Neovim?
2020-11-25 01:23:11 <koz_> Because last I checked, it wasn't even close.
2020-11-25 01:23:20 <Axman6> it runs fast enought that I haven't noticed any performance issues
2020-11-25 01:23:33 <Axman6> HLS on the other hand...
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2020-11-25 01:23:34 <koz_> Axman6: I guess my mileage truly does vary, because I found it intolerably slow.
2020-11-25 01:24:01 <sm[m]> it's not the speed king for typing. Nobody installs it for that
2020-11-25 01:24:29 <ezzieyguywuf> i was never into the big IDE thing
2020-11-25 01:24:35 <sm[m]> Hls ui is noisy and jittery sometimes. Even so - extremely useful
2020-11-25 01:24:39 <koz_> sm[m]: What do you mean by 'not the speed king for typing'? I don't understand?
2020-11-25 01:24:46 <ezzieyguywuf> I tried IDE whenever I was messing around in android, but even then I ended up reverting back to vim
2020-11-25 01:24:52 <Axman6> my only problem with HLS is how much RAM it uses
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2020-11-25 01:25:12 <ezzieyguywuf> i think I'll stop toying with languag server thingy for now, lol
2020-11-25 01:25:13 <Axman6> our dev laptops are 64GB for a reason (it's not just HLS, but that definitely doesn't help)
2020-11-25 01:25:40 <Axman6> we do also have an enormous codebase though (and technically this is DAML Studio, not HLS, but they share a lot)
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2020-11-25 01:26:05 <Digit> yesterday, watching a talk on "the last programming language" got me itching to move from my text editor being extensible in lisp, to one extensible in haskell. n_n ... will be a while before i get feature parity to emacs in yi.
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2020-11-25 01:28:25 <sm[m]> koz_: you keep saying vs code is slower than X, I assume you mean for typing and ui response, I agree and also am saying it's somewhat beside the point
2020-11-25 01:28:38 <koz_> sm[m]: Not to me it isn't.
2020-11-25 01:28:49 <koz_> Again, YMMV is a perfectly valid response to my criticism.
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2020-11-25 01:29:07 <sm[m]> I understand. We don't need to keep arguing here :)
2020-11-25 01:29:11 <koz_> :D
2020-11-25 01:29:12 <int-e> the more times change, the more they stay the same... another round of editor wars...
2020-11-25 01:29:18 <ezzieyguywuf> so with optparse-applicative, if you have 50 arguments/flags, then you have some `data MyArgs = Opt1 | Opt2 |....Opt50`?
2020-11-25 01:29:32 <koz_> ezzieyguywuf: I mean... you _can_, but I don't think you have to.
2020-11-25 01:29:33 <int-e> This should be the first rule of programming: don't talk about editors.
2020-11-25 01:30:04 <sm[m]> vs code is extremely good at some things and in some aspects. End of my point.
2020-11-25 01:30:11 <monochrom> May I talk about email and usenet news clients? >:)
2020-11-25 01:30:17 <koz_> monochrom: :P
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