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2020-11-24 20:11:33 kish is now known as kish`
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2020-11-24 20:12:55 <ezzieyguywuf> should I just put cabal update on a daily chron job?
2020-11-24 20:13:16 <dminuoso> Dunno, should you?
2020-11-24 20:13:24 <merijn> ezzieyguywuf: Naah
2020-11-24 20:13:40 <dminuoso> If you have it daily, you will be annoyed very regularly that builds break
2020-11-24 20:13:45 <merijn> ezzieyguywuf: It warns you if you haven't updated in 20 days or so, and even that isn't necessarily bad
2020-11-24 20:13:46 <dminuoso> Because transitive dependencies are suddenly broken
2020-11-24 20:14:01 <dminuoso> Sure, they get fixed promptly, but it adds a lot of friction
2020-11-24 20:14:12 <dminuoso> A monthly job for this is more sensible
2020-11-24 20:14:41 <dminuoso> (With the odd additional manual invocation)
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2020-11-24 20:28:02 <hekkaidekapus> Speaking of distros, Fedora has some facilities to be friendly to Haskell/Rust/Go. Debian & co. could be inspired by that.
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2020-11-24 20:28:51 <hekkaidekapus> For Rust, libraries as basically shipped as sources.
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2020-11-24 20:29:44 <hekkaidekapus> For Haskell, there is a Modularity repository where everything gets updated in lockstep.
2020-11-24 20:30:07 <hekkaidekapus> And you can pull conflicting versions of the same package from that repo.
2020-11-24 20:30:59 <hekkaidekapus> So, if you want binaries (or don’t want to be building stuff frequently), you just activate said repo.
2020-11-24 20:31:21 <maerwald> yeah, I'm probably going to switch to Fedora sometime soon too
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2020-11-24 20:31:47 <dminuoso> hekkaidekapus: Btw I think I settled on list-tries. It's a very complete tries library, and I trust the author
2020-11-24 20:32:05 <hekkaidekapus> dminuoso: Cool!
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2020-11-24 20:33:02 <hekkaidekapus> re Fedora, the base ‘base’ repositories are Stackage-based, so if you’re in the Stackage mindset, that will be enough for you.
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2020-11-24 20:33:35 <hekkaidekapus> (Credits to petersen and tristanC who do the heavy lifting.)
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2020-11-24 20:57:04 <ezzieyguywuf> shouldn't I want to know if a cabal update breaks builds? i.e. b/c I should update my cabal file (lol, so many cabals!) such that it doesn't fail?
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2020-11-24 21:03:37 <ezzieyguywuf> aside from getArgs at GetOpt, are there other command-line flag "managers" in base?
2020-11-24 21:03:48 <ezzieyguywuf> or what are some common libraries perhaps not in base?
2020-11-24 21:04:00 <merijn> ezzieyguywuf: optparse-applicative
2020-11-24 21:04:52 <ezzieyguywuf> merijn: thanks for the recommendation I'll take a look.
2020-11-24 21:05:25 <hekkaidekapus> ezzieyguywuf: Run `cabal freeze` to lock versions your dependencies.
2020-11-24 21:06:38 <hekkaidekapus> You might also write `index-state: 2020-11-24T12:00:00Z` in cabal.project to let cabal use a specific index.
2020-11-24 21:07:30 <ezzieyguywuf> hekkaidekapus: so this supports the idea of keeping the cabal index up-to-date though, right? because it forces me to use these features as-needed to ensure my stuff works
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2020-11-24 21:08:29 <dminuoso> +1 for optparse-applicative
2020-11-24 21:08:36 <hekkaidekapus> Yeag, `cabal update` will be harmless for the project configured that way, and it will still be able to use latest versions for other projects.
2020-11-24 21:08:40 <dminuoso> One of the sweetest libraries around, despite its quirky implementation. :p
2020-11-24 21:10:58 <ezzieyguywuf> 😍 optparse-applicative has some very nice features!
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2020-11-24 21:11:31 <fendor> is there some *nice* library to aggregate a csv file and visualise it as some simple graphs? Or am I going to be quicker and more painless with R?
2020-11-24 21:11:43 <maerwald> I found it easier designing a cli interface in shell, than in optparse-applicative :p
2020-11-24 21:11:57 <texasmynsted> dsal: What happened to your site? http://bleu.west.spy.net/~dustin/
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2020-11-24 21:12:48 <merijn> maerwald: That's on you :p
2020-11-24 21:13:07 <maerwald> it's still too verbose
2020-11-24 21:13:38 <merijn> It's a bit more verbose than necessary, but it's an insignificant amount
2020-11-24 21:13:53 <maerwald> depends how big your cli interface is
2020-11-24 21:14:03 <ezzieyguywuf> "it's still too verbose" optparse-applicative?
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